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If You're Happy; Was: {qon} vs {gher}

Agnieszka Solska ([email protected]) [KLI Member] [Hol po'wI']

>At the {qep'a'}, Krankor and Angieska (if I misspelled your name, I'm 
>sorry, please correct me)

Yeees, you did mangle the name a bit. As was revealed recently the name is 
actually Kranbo. ;)

pong DaghItlhHa'bej. qen ngoDvam 'anglu': Kranbo 'oH pong'e'. {{;-)

>did a Klingon version of "If You're Happy and You Know It" ({bIQuchchugh 
>'ej DaSovchugh})

tlhIngan Hol bom mu'mey:

   1.
   DaH bIQuchchugh; 'e' DaSovchugh
   nuj yIrIl.
   DaH bIQuchchugh; 'e' DaSovchugh
   nuj yIrIl.
   DaH bIQuchchugh; 'e' DaSovchugh
   tlhIngan bel SoH 'e' Daghovchugh
   DaH bIQuchchugh; 'e' DaSovchugh
   nuj yIrIl.

   2.
   ...qogh tISen.

   3.
   ...ghIch yISIq.

   4.
   ...Quch yIqay.

   5.
   ...woS yIqew.

   6.
   ...chor yIqan.


qaStaHvIS qep'a' *cabaret* wot <<Sen>> lo'bogh mu'tlhegh'e' Hutlh bomvam. 
rInDI' qep'a' mu'tlheghvam vIchel.  Qap DIp <<qogh>> 'e' vItul.

>It was great,

tlho'. DIvI' Hol bomvam vImughta' Dunqu'mo' 'ej pIlmoHmo'.
pIlmoH je tlhIngan Hol mu'mey 'e' vItul (porgh 'ay'mey Delbogh wotmey'e' 
DIpmey'e' je lughojlu'meH.)

>but there was one line in the song that went:

>{tlhIngan bel SoH 'e' Daghovchugh} "If you recognize that you are a pleased 
>Klingon"
>
>Inside I winced. I feel that this use of "recognize" in English is 
>idiomatic, and so wouldn't encode to Klingon correctly. But I felt the same 
>way about the use of {Qub} as "I believe", as in {tlhIngan Hol Dajatlh 'e' 
>vIQub} "I think you speak Klingon", until I found out that this use is 
>canon.
tlheghvam vImughchoHDI' pIm, 'ach SIbI' wIchoH Qanqor jIH je. mu' <Sov> 
vIlo'pu'mo' mu'vam rurbogh latlh mu''e' wInej. <ghov> wISam. wIlaj.
Though originally different, the line now contains the verb <ghov> because 
it rhymes with <Sov>.

>So I'm not going to tell Krankor and Angieska that their usage of {ghov} is 
>incorrect, because I cannot say that it is. But until we're told otherwise, 
>*I* *personally* will not use it this way.
Qap mu'tlheghvam 'e' ghovbe'chugh vay' 'ej tlhIngan belHa' ghaHchugh vaj  
qoghDaj rIlnISbej! {{;-)


latlh De': latlh 'ay'mey ghaj bomvam. vaDqu'chugh vay' bomlaH mI'taHvIS:
BTW anyone lithe enough might enjoy "doing" the remaining lines of the song


   7.
   ...Dub yImar.

   8.
   ...tlhon tIHom.

   9.
   ...bem yIroS.

   10.
   ...nach yInan.

   11.
   ...mIn tIQay'.


'ISqu'
a.k.a Agnieszka
(tambe' g, S 'oH sz'e')

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