tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Jun 16 11:40:48 2003
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Re: QoQghom "Degh"
tlhIngan SuvwI',
qajangpa' loQ qalughmoH. qatIch 'e' vIHechbe'; tlhIngan Hol laHlIj DaDub
'e' vIboQ vIneH neH.
From: "Klingon Warrior" <[email protected]>
> "Degh" ghaj'a' vay'?
vIghaj jIH'e'.
>"Degh" vIghaj 'ej jIbepnIS! toH, bepbe' 'ach Saja'chuqnIS, lugh'a' bom
mu'?
Don't drop prefixes due to redundancy. Say /jIbepbe' . . ./, including the
/jI-/ again. We can probably chalk this one up to clipped Klingon, however.
The verb /ja'chuq/ "discuss, tell one another" is really the verb /ja'/
"tell, report" plus the suffix /-chuq/ "each other." As specified in TKD
section 4.2.1, /-chuq/ is only used with plural subjects (and it doesn't use
objects). You can say */Saja'chuqnIS/, because that's got a prefix that
indicates an object. Consider /ja'chuq/ a thing that multiple people do
together. One party does not do it to another. You can say:
maja'chuqnIS: lugh'a' bom mu'?
We need to talk: are the lyrics right?
ghobe'. pabbe' bom mu'.
> <<Qam maHvaD neH yoH loD>> jatlh wa' bom mu'. <<yoH loD>>Daq yInej.
"Search for /yoH loD/." /nej/ isn't really the right verb here; try /qel/
"consider."
<yoH loD> yIqel
Consider /yoH loD/.
> loD yoH 'oH "the Brave Man"'e', qar'a'?
qar.
> <<loD yoH>> 'oHbe' "the Brave Man"'e', qar'a'?
umm . . . qarbe'. "The brave man" 'oSbej <loD yoH>.
> SatlhobnIS je,
I believe that KGT tells us (or maybe Okrand told us; I don't remember
exactly which) that /tlhob/ is used for making requests, whereas /ghel/ is
used for asking questions. You're asking a question, so you should say
SaghelnIS je
I also need to ask you,
> <<wa'loghbe' cha'loghbe' 'ach wejlogh!>> jatlh "Degh." mu'tlheghmey muv
<<'ach>> mu'.
> mu'tlhegh 'oHbe' <<wejlogh>>'e'. bIyaj'a'?
jIyaj. 'a jIHvaD qay'be' <'ach>. jIHvaD qay'chu' <-be'>. *<wa'loghbe'>
jatlhlu'be'bej!
rut bomvaD QaghHommey buSHa'nISlu'.
> chay' DIpmey muv "but" 'e' ja'chuqbe' TKD. vuDmeyraj?
Again, /ja'chuq/ doesn't take an object, because it's /ja'/ + /-chuq/.
Instead of /ja'chuq/, you could put /'ang/ "reveal, show" or /QIj/ "explain"
here.
pabbe'bej bom, 'a Dajbej. reH pabnISchugh tlhIngan Hol bom, not bom qonlu'!
<Degh> vI'IjtaHvIS pab vIbuSHa'taH. QoQ ghogh je vIbuStaH. qonwI'pu'
DItungHa'nIS.
SuStel
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