tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Jun 12 16:22:57 2003
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Re: FW: Star Trek monologue
- From: "Dallas McPhee" <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: FW: Star Trek monologue
- Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 17:16:26 -0400
how do i say beam me up
>From: "John Terzis" <[email protected]>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: "tlhIngan-Hol" <[email protected]>
>Subject: FW: Star Trek monologue
>Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 19:28:39 +0300
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Steven Boozer [mailto:[email protected]]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 11:43 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: Star Trek monologue
>
>
>ter'eS:
> > >> Shouldn't this be {'enterpray' 'ejDo'}? I thought we even
> > >> had canon for this.
>
>Voragh:
> > > We do:
> > >
> > > nImbuS wejDaq 'ejDo' 'entepray' ngeHlu'pu'
> > > The starship Enterprise has been dispatched to Nimbus III. ST5
> > > [...]
> > > Go figure. As always, the Enterprise gets to break the rules!
>
>Russ Perry Jr:
> >Perhaps the Klingons speak of it in a different order to make the
> >name sound even more annoying to Klingon ears? :-)
>
>My guess is that Okrand did it this way because "The Starship Enterprise"
>has become a sort of a proper name in Trek. Interestingly, all examples of
>{'ejDo'} "starship" refer to Enterprise and all are {'ejDo' 'entepray'}
>with {'ejDo'} preceding the ship's name.
>
> >Hmm, any canon uses of "HoD Kirk" vs "Kirk HoD"?
>
>Nope. In fact, {qIrq} (Kirk) is never called "Captain Kirk" in canon.
>
> >(HoD = captain, right?
>
>Correct. All examples of {HoD} in canon follow the name: {janluq pIqarD
>HoD} Captain Jean-Luc Picard, {qarghan HoD} Captain Kargan, {tlha'a HoD}
>Captain Klaa. This is standard practice in Klingon WRT ranks and titles:
>
> When used with an individual's name, a title follows the name: {tlha'a
>HoD}
> (Captain Klaa), {cheng Sa'} (General Chang), {qeng la'} (Commander
>Kang),
> and so on. (KGT 52)
>
> If someone has an official title, such as a military rank or a position
>in
> the government, this title follows the name; for example, {martaq Sa'}
> (General Martok), {ghawran Qang} (Chancellor Gowron). When addressing
>such
> a person, the title is left off only when the occasion is decidedly
>nonofficial.
> (KGT 197f)
>
>... Krankor excepted, of course. <g>
>
>
>
>--
>Voragh
>Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
>
>
>
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