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Re: KLBC chepqu' ne' QonoS



Quvar wrote:

>ghItlh chepqu' ne':
>
> >It's starter was damaged.
> >QIH 'oH Duj taHwI''e'.
>
>{tagh} -  "to begin, initiate"
>{taH}  -  "continue, endure, go on, survive"
>
>You can do this as a noun-noun construction:
>   "the ship's starter is defective":
>    {Duy' DujwIj taghwI'}
>
>Or, if you don't want to repeat the possessor, use the possessive suffix:
>   "its starter is defective":
>    {Duy' taghwI'Daj}
>
>But without context, it is not clear what you are talking about.

{taghwI'} is a "beginner, someone/something that begins"; if anything, 
something that starts something else should be *{taghmoHwI'} <g>.  But, you 
already have {chu'wI'} "trigger", derived from {chu'} "engage, activate, 
turn on (a device)" from PK:

   javmaH tat chu'wI' vIneHbej.
   I definitely want sixty ion triggers.

> >While I was waiting, I received "The Klingon Way". :-)
> >jIloSlI'vIS "tlhIngan tIgh: SuvwI' DevmeH paq" vIHevpu'. }}:-)
>
>maj.

Not quite.  It should be {jIloStaHvIS...}.  Okrand wrote about {-vIS} in 
TKD (p.43) that "This suffix is always used along with the Type 7 suffix 
{-taH} 'continuous'."

Although we are tempted to use other suffixes with {-vIS}, we should 
resist.  I'm told that Krankor asked Okrand at qep'a' loSDIch whether 
{-be'} could be inserted between {-taH} and {-vIS} for a suffix combination 
{-taHbe'vIS} (meaning something like "while discontinuously").  Okrand 
answered, "That's an interesting question."



-- 
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons 



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