tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Sep 30 15:09:26 2002
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Re: Do'meHghach
peHruS:
> >>> SoS chIm 'oH puq SoS lIw'e' net ghItlh.
DloraH:
> >> In what klingon source is this written?
> >> This human sentence can't be used to determine how a klingon uses chIm.
> >> I'm not saying chIm can't be used this way; I'm saying we don't know.
Voragh:
> > It comes from TNG "Parallels", where Worf asked Deanna Troy to be
> > Alexander's *So'chIm* in the event that anything happened to him.
> >
> > Although it was spelled *so'chim* in the captions, most have assumed the
> > writers meant *{SoS chIm} - though why they wanted to call her an
> > "empty/deserted/uninhabited mother" is beyond me.
> >
> > Was this a look-up error? {chIl} "lose, misplace" is listed next to
> > {chIm}: Were they trying to say (ungrammatically, as usual) *{SoS chIl}
> > a "lost" mother?
DloraH:
>We all know we can't always break words apart like this.
>I've always thought of it as nothing but So'chIm, a word all of it's own.
>
>The word for "animal" does not mean "Come on, we fire them."
>Does "data transceiving device" really mean "It's being smooth"?
Of course not. And no one is suggesting that *So'chIm* has anything to do
with with the verb {So'} "hide, conceal, cloak". Or with the verb
{He'So'} "stink" or the noun {rIvSo'} "embassy", both of which also contain
the element *{So'}.
OTOH it's not unreasonable to expect that a word having to do with some
type of surrogate, foster or - dare I say? - honorary mother might actually
be related to {SoS} "mother".
For all we know, actor Michael Dorn might have mis-remembered or
mis-pronounced *SoSchIm*. We don't actually know where "SO'CHIM" in the
closed captions came from. It may have actually been in the script; then
again, it may have been added by the captioner trying to record what s/he
heard actor Michael Dorn say. As I understand the process, sometimes the
captioners are provided with copies of the shooting script, and sometimes
they aren't and have to transcribe what they hear.
And on an unrelated note: Does anyone know whether Marc Okrand still works
for the Closed Captioning Institute? (That's in Washington, isn't it?)
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons