tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Nov 21 14:09:28 2002
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Re: KLBC: Phonetic Translation
> > > > So, that's: Remember five vowel sounds, learn
> > > > four consonants. If he is not capable of such
> > > > a small task, how can he be a CO?
> > >
> > > I would guess that he would know that. I am a
> > > CO of another organization's ship and I am not
> > > 100% sure that I know.
> >
> > He and you know what? How he can be a CO?
>
>
> No, knowing the 5 vowels & 4 consonants.
If he does know them, then what's the problem?
> > 3> To me, -meh & -meH is the same pronounciation.
> >
> > 4> I always thought the "H" was like a silent
> > 4> H. thlinganmaH = Klingon ma
> >
> > For 1, 2, 3 and 4 I ask if you have yet read that
> > link I gave you? (those lessons on my website:
> > www2.rpa.net/~cheesbro/lessons ) The first lesson
> > (after the intro) covers pronunciation. If any of
> > the descriptions are confusing, by all means ask
> > about it.
>
>
> Yes, I reviewed it, but still have trouble
> trying to get a correct phonetic spelling
Don't try to create a phonetic spelling. That's why we're telling you to just
learn how to read the system we use.
> I have never heard some of those sounds produced that way.
Well ya; you're an American, these sounds come from another culture. I'm going
to guess that nobody here has heard all of these sounds before they ever got
into klingon/linguistics. Some people may have heard some of the sounds.
> Every time
> he put something in tlhlingan Hol on the website,
> he'd get complaints that it doesn't show how to
> pronounce it. So now, he makes me decipher it.
>...
> The Captain is getting complaints that nobody
> can properly pronounce what is written without
> seeing the phonetic breakdown.
So in the next newsletter give everyone a copy of the pronunciation guide, and
they all can learn to read the standard system we use.
Most of the pronunciation guides out there, including the one I wrote, do not
use confusing liguistic terms. They are staight forward, plain language.
Except for maybe the tlh sound, it is not as difficult as people think.
> When the actors talk Klingon, that's the only
> time I hear Klingon being spoken with the exception
> of a few times at conventions. When I hear the actors
> pronounce it, I repeat it to learn how to speak it.
AAAHH! Don't do that! They don't pronounce it right. That's why you thought
the H was silent.
DloraH