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Re: KLBC the effects of -Ha'

Russ Perry Jr. wrote:

>Quoting Quvar valer <>:
> > ghItlh "Sebastian DuMars" <>:
> >>  nep=lie       nepHa'= another expression for 'be true' or 'to
> >>                tell the truth"
> > I don't think so, because there is a word for "tell the truth": {vIt}
> > I'm not sure, but I'd say that here, the "wrongly"-meaning can also be
> > applied, describing a bad liar.

If {vIt} is "tell the truth", *{vItHa'} might mean "commit perjury" which 
implies more than mere lying {nep}.

A similar idea is {lay'} "promise" vs. {lay'Ha'} "break one's word":

   not lay'Ha' tlhIngan
   No Klingon ever breaks his word. TKW

which might imply the pair {'Ip} "vow, swear" vs. *{'IpHa'} "break/violate 
one's oath".

>Actually, given the whole "opposite" idea, perhaps it's something more
>like "recant", or "tell the truth (but only after lying initially)",
>that sort of thing.  For instance, it might be used to describe a witness
>or defendent in court who changes their story to tell the truth, finally.

A better example might be the verb {DIS} "confess", where *{DISHa'} would 
be to "un-confess" or "recant one's confession".

> > >ghaj=have            ghajHa'=lose?
> > Here, we also have a word for "lose, misplace" {chIl}:
> >    {tlhonchaj chIljaj}
> >    "may they lose their nostrils"
>Perhaps, again going with "opposite", this could be something like "donate"
>or ...  can't think of the word, but when one "gives up their worldly
>possessions".  Or possibly "surrender" (sort of the opposite side of
>"confiscate"), like if you surrender a weapon.

A good example of opposite actions is the pair {nob} "give" vs. {nobHa'} 
"give back, return" as in

   Huch nobHa'bogh verenganpu''e' yIvoqQo'
   Don't trust Ferengi who give back money. TKW

Voragh                            "All the meaning is in the context."
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons           (Ilya Kabakov, Russian artist)

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