RE: KLBC: Greetings

[Perry Brulotte <PBrulotte@tlcesmart.com>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: DloraH [mailto:DloraH@kli.org] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 20:26
> To: tlhIngan-Hol@kli.org
> Subject: RE: KLBC: Greetings
> 
> 
> > jabbI'IDmeyvam vIjIHtaH.
> > I have been monitoring these messages.
> 
> maj.
> 
> 
> > reH Hoch Sayajbe', 'ach rut vay'mey Sayaj.
> > I don't always understand everything, but I usually understand some
> things.
> 
> Sa- is "[I] to [you (pl)]".
> Your objects above are "it" and "them".  (I say "it" because 
> Hoch, tho refers to plural, is grammaticly singular.)

va'!  {Looking back I realize that mistake.}

> 
> We also have  'op "some, an unknown or unspecified quantity (n)".
> 
> 
> > *KLBC* vIghItlh jabbI'IDmeywIj.
> > I will mark my messages *KLBC*.
> 
> Object-Verb-Subject.  You have /jabbI'IDmeywIj/ in the subject place.

Qu'vatlh!  {Again!  I see this now that I reread the sentence...}

> 
> jabbI'IDmeywIjDaq KLBC vIghItlh.
> 
> I think this might work also:
> jabbI'IDmeywIjvaD KLBC vIghItlh.

I can see that.  In fact it actually reads better.

> 
> 
> > tlhIngan Hol ghojwI' jIH.
> > I am a Klingon Language student.
> 
> maj.
> 
> 
> > Samuv 'e' vIbel!
> > I am pleased to join you!
> 
> ... vIbel  "I be pleased it"
> /bel/ is an intransitive verb; it doesn't take an object.
> For this we want to use the suffix -mo' "because"
> 
> Samuvmo' jIbel!  "Because I joined you, I am pleased!"
> 

Once again... I see my error as soon as I translate it back and reread it.
I'll proofread better in the future.

> 
> > wa' ben *KLI* vImuv 'ej jabbI'Idmeyvam vIlaD 'ach jItambe'.
> > I joined the KLI one year ago and I have read thes messages 
> but I have 
> > not posted.
> 
> /'ach jItambe'/ ?  "but I am not quiet", "but I do not substitute" ?
> 
> Perhaps:  'ach jabbI'ID vIlabbe'  "but I did not transmit messages."

Yes!  I knew it didn't read well but nothing else came to mind.  This is
much better.

> 
> 
> > 'ach jItambe'ta'!
> > But I am quiet no more!
> 
> "But I have been not quiet!"
> 
> For this we will utilize the suffix -choH.
> jItambe'choH  "I become not quite"
> 

Right.  Sometimes I have problem with certain suffixes and -choH and -mo'
are the two I most commonly forget to use.

> 
> > DaH jIQumtaH vIneH.
> > Now I wish to keep communicating.
> 
> maj
> 
> 
> > loQ tlhIngan Hol vIjatlh 'ej vIghItlh.
> > I speak and write a little Klingon.
> 
> I think the /loQ/ should be put in both sentences.
> 

Ok.  Probably the whole /loQ tlhIngan Hol/ as well.  No?

> 
> > boQmeylIj vItlho'!
> > I thank you for your assistance!
> 
> Do you thank our help, or do you thank US because we help 
> you? choboQmo' qatlho'!
> 

Yeah... that was it.  Just misusing prefixes... again I re-read it and
realized... it was that damned /-mo'/ again!


> 
> > reH tlhIngan Hol!
> > Klingon Language forever!
> 
> The klingon is just as incomplete as the english.  (but I 
> think you know
> that)
> 

I was intended to be a "clipped" statement.

> 
> > HolwIj yIHIv!
> > Attack (criticize) my words!
> 
> Your english uses "words", but your klingon uses /Hol/ 
> "language". mu'wIj tIHIv!  "Attack my words!"
> 

I saw this just about the time I clicked "Send" but the brain was slower
than the finger clicking the mouse.  I should have used /mu'meywIj/ here.  I
almost posted a correction but I figured you'd catch it so I waited.

> 
> 
> You did good.  Even tho there were mistakes, I was able to 
> understand what you wrote.
> 

qatlho'.  choquvmoH.

Vlodnak

> 
> DloraH, BG
>