tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Mar 06 20:00:09 2002
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Re: jIH vIchuHlu' - Words mentioned earlier but not in the New Words list?
- From: [email protected]
- Subject: Re: jIH vIchuHlu' - Words mentioned earlier but not in the New Words list?
- Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 20:00:01 EST
In a message dated 3/6/2002 11:07:10 AM Mountain Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
> Many of us love the word {'I'} and its method for becoming canon. The juicy
> part of the story begins when peHruS wrote in, telling me I needed to
> include
> it in the New Words List. He didn't remember where he got it, but he was
> SURE
> it was from Okrand. We argued about it for a couple weeks.
>
> ghunchu'wI' went back through the archives and found that it actually was a
>
> word that ~mark, the grammarian at the time, had made up in an argument he
> was
> making AGAINST making up our own words. Someone wanted us to just make up
> new
> words without Okrand. ~mark said, "But if we do that, how is someone out
> there
> who bought TKD, but never heard of the KLI going to know that {'I'}
> means 'armpit'?" It was a joke. We forgot it.
>
> But peHruS put it in his word list and didn't record the source. We can't
> fault
> him too much for that. In those days most people had word lists with no
> citations of the source. This was not uncommon.
>
> So, we had this funny story to tell Okrand at the next qep'a'. He heard it
> and
> laughed with the rest of us, but then got a mischevious grin and said, "But
> you
> know, there really is a Klingon word for 'armpit'."
>
> This got our attention. We uttered a collective, "Really? What is it?"
>
> He grinned and said, {'I'}.
>
This is peHruS. The above didn't happen just the way it is written!!!
I recalled that someone had brought up "armpit" and {'I'} as an example of
what not to do, i.e., create words, because that would confuse anyone who
could not find the word glossed in the available materials. Even then I
said I thought is was ~mark, not Marc.
Next, I NEVER included it in my word list.
BTW, I have never published my word list for anyone to see. So, how do you
"know" what is in it?
I did ask about the word.
Although I was not present at the time MO confirmed that {'I'} indeed is the
tlhIngan Hol for "armpit," the story I heard is that there was a Hokey Pokey
dance going on and MO said "put your 'I'Du' in," etc.
peHruS