tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Tue Jun 25 21:28:07 2002
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RE: Ten Commandments
> Btw, this is from the King James
I can't read the true original, so keep with the KJV here is my take on it.
> 1. 'ej Hoch mu'meyvam jatlh Qun'a'. jatlh:
> 2. joH'a', QunlI' jIH. *Egypt* yervo', toy'moHbogh puHvo' qaqengpu' jIH.
> 3. SoHvaD pagH Qun potlh law', jIH potlh puS, 'e' yIchaw'Qo'.
"Don't permit zero gods to be more important." That says there should
always be at least one god above him. Change pagh to latlh.
> 4. pagh nagh beQ yIchenmoH.
Instead of stone tablets, I think Hew sculptures/statues would be better.
> Dung QItu'Daq, bIng yavDaq joq, yav bIng bIQDaq joq,
> pagh'e' tu'lu'bogh rurmeH vay' yIchenmoH.
"Do make something for the purpose of resembling nothing which is in..."
... vay' tu'lu'bogh rurbogh vay' yIchenmoHQo'
"Don't make something..."
> 5. bIH tlhopDaq DavanmeH yI'eS'eghmoHQo'; 'ej bIH yItoy'Qo':
... yItorQo' ...
> Qun ghal jIHmo', joH'a', QunlI' jIHtaHvIS.
Andrew mentioned /ghal/.
Where does the -taHvIS come from?
> vavpu' HeS vIbIjmeH, puqpu' vInoD.
> mumuSchugh chaH, vaj puq poHvaD wejDIch loSDIch je vInoD.
"punish the crime"?
vavpu' HeSmo' puqpu' vIbIj; mumuSbogh chaH puq poHvaD wejDIch loSDIch je
puq vIbIj je.
(If it confuses you, the second sentence is a noun-noun-noun clause.)
> 6. 'ej mumuSHa'chugh nuv, 'ej chut vIra'bogh polchugh,
> chaHvaD pung vI'ang, law'qu'taHvIS chaH je.
pol "keep, save" as in "where do you keep the chocolate?"
"keep a commandment" I believe is "obey".
The object of ra' is the person being commanded.
Another -taHvIS. ?
> 7. joH'a', QunlI' pong Dalo'DI', yIvuvHa'Qo'.
> pongDaj lo'DI' vuvHa'chugh vay', vaj DIvHa' ghaH 'e' HarQo' joH'a'.
> 8.*sabbath* jaj batlh DapolmeH, jaj yIqaw.
"... for the purpose of honorably saving the day of sabbath."
sabbath jaj DaquvmoHmeH jaj yIqaw.
> 9. jav jaj yIvum, 'ej Hoch Qu' yIchav.
> 10. 'ach joH'a', QunlI' *sabbath* 'oH jaj SochDIch'e'.
> qaStaHvIS, pevumQo', SoH, puqloDlI' je, puqbe'lI' je,
> toy'wI'loD je, toy'wI'be' je, tangqa'lIj je,
> yergholIj qoDDaq nov'e' tu'lu'bogh je.
> 11. vumQo'nIS chaH,
> QItu', yav, bIQ'a', Hoch lungaSbogh je chenmoHmo' joH'a',
> qaStaHvIS jav jaj; 'ej jaj SochDIch leSmo' ghaH.
> vaj *sabbath* jaj naD joH'a', 'ej chev.
> 12. vavlI' SoSlI' je yIquvmoH.
... tIquvmoH.
> vaj nI'jaj jajmeylIj, Sep'e' Dunobbogh joH'a', QunlI' DaDabtaHvIS.
"May your days be lengthy" really means "may they be many".
vaj law'jaj jajmeylIj
Sep ? I would stick with the more general term puH.
> 13. yIHoHQo'.
> 14. tlhogh yIbIvQo'.
> 15. yInIHQo'.
> 16. jIllI' pummeH 'Ip ngeb yImaqQo'.
> 17. jIllI' juH DaSuqmeH yIQuSQo'.
> jIllI' be'nal, toy'wI'loD joq, toy'wI'be' joq,
> tangqa' joq, Sargh joq, vay''e' ghajbogh jIllI' joq DaSuqmeH yIQuSQo'.
DloraH