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Re: Klingon WOTD: jaj (n)

> >Klingon word:   jaj
> >Part of Speech: noun
> >Definition:     day
> >
> >Opposite of {ram}.

>Not true.
>jaj (n) day (from dawn to dawn)
>pem (n) daytime
>ram (n) night
>{jaj} is a period which includes both {pem} and {ram).

Cf. the idiom in KGT {wa'maH cha' pemmey wa'maH cha' rammey je} "twelve 
days and twelve nights" (i.e. "a long time"):

"This is a rather long-winded way to say 'a long time' (which would be {poH 
nI'} in nonidiomatic speech). It implies a bit more than that, however, for 
it is used to mean not only that the length of an event is long but also 
that the event is an important one, worthy of taking up so much time. The 
expression comes from the well-known story of Kahless the Unforgettable, 
the founder of the Klingon Empire, and his brother, Morath, who fought for 
the fabled 'twelve days and twelve nights' because Morath had broken his 
word an brought shame to the family. The word used for 'days,' {pemmey}, is 
the plural form of {pem} ('day, daytime'), a word referring to the part of 
the day when it is light out (as opposed to {ram} ['night']). Another word, 
jaj ('day') refers to the full period from dawn to dawn." (KGT p.121)

Okrand also discussed {pem} on startrek.klingon (6/97):

"In Klingon, you could even say {DaHjaj pem} 'today's daytime', which would 
probably be typically contrasted with {DaHjaj ram} 'today's night' (or 

Ca'Non Master of the Klingons

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