tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Feb 06 02:30:28 2002

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Re: Alphabet

I couldn't think of any possible way to write down how I pronounce o/oh in
Jon/John to show how different it is to Klingon [ jan ].  I have therefore
produced a short wav file so you can hear for yourselves and uploaded it to
I'll let you tell me if there's a way you could describe that sound... When
Children are taught the alphabet phonetically here this is also the sound we
would expect from a child saying "o" .

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Trimboli" <>

> From: "qe'San (temp ADSL email)" <>
> > This reminds me of an Interstellar Language School publication which
> stated
> > that Klingon [a] sounded like [oh] in John... It took me ages to figure
> out
> > why such a glaring mistake had been made... Then I twigged, there was no
> > mistake at least not from the authors perspective as some people do
> > pronounce [John] like [Jarn].. Not quite sure how to describe how I say
> > Jon/John and couldn't find an IPA font with the symbol I needed so I'll
> > leave it there.
> I speak American East Coast Newscasterese (sans monotonous tones--I wasn't
> trained in it, it's just what I speak, more or less), and I pronounce
> and Klingon /jan/ identically.  There is no weak "r" in there.  Listen to
> the sounds on /tlh/sounds.html done by Mark Shoulson.
> These are accurate (except his initial /gh/ is a little too gargly,
> something I think that Mark himself is aware of).
> SuStel
> Stardate 2099.8

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