tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Sep 12 22:23:44 2001
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RE: Enterprise
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> From: Russ Perry Jr [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 10:33 PM
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> Subject: Re: Enterprise
>
>
> >In Ann Crispin's book "Sarek", she states that Klingon ships are
> referred to as "he":
> >
> >Jim Kirk: "What'll we name her?"
> >Peter Kirk: "Actually, it's a he. And he already has a name."
> >
> >... or something similar.
> >
> >I'm not sure what bearing this has on ships as possessors, but
> it would seem - assuming that *all* Ann's information came from
> Dr Okrand (her Klingon language phrases, at least, are in <<ta'
> Hol>>, direct from MO) - that Klingons anthropomorphise (??)
> their ships as well.
Ann Krispin didn't write Klingon phrases. She mostly used nouns.
> A long time back (early TNG), I had an idea for a story (and of course I
> never got around to writing or submitting it)... Please pardon any
> amateurish drivel below...
>
> I called the story "Juggernaut", and it involved a gang of terrorists that
> stole a prototype Klingon dreadnaught. There was a bit of dialogue that
> would have gone something like this:
>
> -----------------
> Admiral (over comm): "The Enterprise is the only ship near enough to keep
> an eye on it, but keep your distance. Help is on the way."
>
> Picard: "I understand. We will observe but will not engage."
>
> Admiral (signing off): "Very well then; we wish you success tracking
> the [mevbe'wI' jIH]."
>
> Picard (to Worf): "[mevbe'wI' jiH]?"
Ouch. That's really bad.
You might look closer to the translation of "Kahless, the Unforgetable" and
come closer to something like:
Actually, I'm not happy with anything I can come up with here. It's really
just a bad approach. Klingon ship names tend to be relatively simple, like
{pagh} or {targh}. "One who cannot be stopped" is just not something that
would roll off a Klingon tongue. There's a difference between one that
doesn't stop and one that cannot be stopped and you aren't close to the
latter.
> Worf: "Juggernaut, sir. 'The unstoppable'."
>
> Picard: "Ah, yes; I'm afraid my Klingon is a little rusty. But if
> memory serves, [jIH] is the equivalent to 'I', is it not?"
>
> Worf: "It is, sir. The name could be translated as '*I* am unstoppable'.
> Klingons sometimes name a ship as though it were a person, hoping it will
> gain a warrior pride of its own."
> -----------------
>
> Dunno if Okrand had anything of the sort in mind though...
Likely not.
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