tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Oct 10 14:18:59 2001
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RE: Broken Bow?
- From: Marc Paige <[email protected]>
- Subject: RE: Broken Bow?
- Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 14:10:06 -0500
jatlh Qor'etlh valwI'na' latlhpu' je
> jIqon:
> > >CHANCELLOR
> > >(to Archer)
> > >chupDaH Hegh volchaHvay
> > > [ "I recommend distance or whatever you are will die."
> > > (I.E. Get lost or I'll kill ya!)]
every script I can find lists the original as
"ChugDah hegh ...volcha vay"
>
> SuSvaj bItlhob:
> > Is that the meaning that the script gives?
> > I can't make anything of this except
> > "The shoulder's someone dies the recomend now."
>
> There was no English translation for this given. I think they were
> trying to say literally "Now I recommend that you distance (your)
> shoulder (from) Death." I thought it was some kind of obscure
> metaphor.
chaq...
perhaps...
>
> I don't have Voragh's resources, so I wasn't sure if it was lifted
> from text somewhere else, or transposed words from a similar phrase.
>
> If it wasn't translated in the Script, they must have wanted us to
> try & figure it out. The first word was problematic, because the
> script had a typo where the character p (or q, or g as Qov has
> observed) were mangled in my copy. Quite a bit of the 'Klingon' has
> typos in it. Most of it one can make guesses, or bridge the gap by
> listening to the episode.
>
> My translation is reaching, but I am quite sure of the word
> {volchaHvay} because the entire phrase is repeated at least twice
> during the episode.
>
ghItlhDaq vInejDI', wa'logh mu'tlhegh vISam.
searching through the script, I find only one occurrence of this phrase.
also, I'm not convinced it was "shoulder" since the written text did not
include the ending 'h' on "volcha". At least when they look up a word, they
put the text down correctly. It then falls to the actor to mispronounce the
words.
> Was he calling Archer "Shoulders." I don't know....LOL
>
> If you taped it, the sound is actually clearer in the earlier scene
> when Hoshi & Archer are in Brazil, and he plays the 'Vulcan database'
> material to her. All of the sounds in that scene can also be heard in
> the Klingon Council Chambers later.
>
ah, I couldn't make out the sound on the recording very well. This is why
you say the phrase is repeated. Sounds more like a cheap way out, record the
last scene and play it in the beginning! verengan Ha'DIbaHpu' (or should
that be -mey? which would make the insult more biting?)
> I made an audio tape of that part, and played it against the video of
> the earlier scene. Out of sequence, some of the phrases are the same.
talIjvaD .mp3 .wav joq DachenmoHlaH'a' ghIq <Internet>Daq DalanlaH'a'
Can you make either an .mp3 or .wav from your recording and then put in on
the internet?
Say'IluD
vIt, batlh, yIn
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