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Re: Enterprise Time line



charghwI' 'utlh jatlh:
> This seems to be a case of one using one's teeth to detach a mass
with an
> inappropriate size and texture to suit the function of masticating.
Let's
> look to the English and try again.

jIHagh 'ej bIlugh.

> The television shows never have spoken ta' Hol. Okrand has had to
create
> words to match what they said more times than they have bothered to
use the
> 2,200+ words that he had already created.

Upon further investigation of all of my extensive resources,
Intelligence reveals that there WAS an Emperor at this time, and that
there could not only have been another dialect in fashion, but that
the Empire may have used an entirely different language from the
Homeworld.

I won't send the proof, since that seems to be off topic, even though
IT DIRECTLY AFFECTS THE LANGUAGE.

> jISaHbe'. When a movie comes out and Okrand is consulted, I watch
the movie
> and I buy the video. In all other circumstances, Dojbe'mo'
Holqoqchaj jISaHbe'.

nuq, vISaH?
You most certainly have that backwards, at least what has proven true
in the historical perspective:
TKD and the language came out AFTER the movie(s), and we will have to
wait years for any 'official' confirmation of this recent 'Canon'
revelation, as we did KGT after the other series.

IF we get one at all.

On the other hand, I'm sure you enjoyed ATLANTIS.


     qun luqon yaywI’
          “It is the victors who write the history.”


> There really are other places to do what you wish to do.
> Daqvetlh 'oHbe' naDev'e'. [That sounds suspiciously like pig
latin.]

Once again, I beg your pardon for having included the members of the
tlh-H ListServ in the greater Klingon Kommunity. Your ivory towers
have guarded you well. Open not the gates, lest the masque of the Red
Death wander in.



> What those actors say when they pretend to speak a language they
have not
> had explained to them cannot be considered to be language in any
form.
> Whoever wrote down the nonsense they are supposed to pronounce was
not a
> linguist or a Klingon speaker. It is gibberish written by someone
who may or
> may not have ever seen TKD, but certainly never talked to Okrand,
never
> actually USED TKD in the manner it was designed to be used and
never used
> any of the other materials available for anyone interested in
learning the
> language.

Did they NOT ask Marc? I don't know, since I haven't asked. He never
talks about what he's currently working on. We didn't find out about
Atlantis until two-years after he finished that effort. If you're
right; that P/V Branon & Braga didn't even bother...then this is a
very sad state to be in.

Maybe it's finally time to take up Vulcan ...

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      qo'mey poSmoH Hol... chaq yabDu' je ('ej valwI'pu' jatlhwI'pu'
je)!

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