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Re: I had an idea, I don't know how...



jatlh Jiri:

 > How about:
 >
 >     qatlh mevpu' 'e' vIQIjlaHbe'
 >     qatlh mevpu' 'e' vIngu'laHbe'

jang SuStel:

>One of the objections to QAO is that the two sentences don't quite match
>each other.  An English speaker would not accept "I cannot explain 'why has
>he stopped?'"  I cannot explain the REASON he has stopped, not why has he
>stopped?  (Notice how that last sentence makes no sense?)  As far as makes
>sense to me, the object sentence cannot be a question.

teSQaS, SuStel - ngerlIj Dalo'pu'DI', qechmeywIj DachoHpu' :) jIHvaD qechvam 
DaQIjchu'.

nuq qechmey latlh jatlhpu' nuvpu' "QAO" qay'wI' QIjmeH?

wotmeyvam bolo'DI', bIlugh 'e' vIlegh, 'ej DaH "QAO" qay'wI' vIyaj ('e' 
vItul). DaQIjpa' vIyajbe'.

je Jiri jabbI'IDDaq, "indirect quotation" 'oHlaw' mu'tlhegh ngeHbogh. 
(DaQIjpu'bogh.)

Congratulations, SuStel - when you explained your theory like this, my ideas 
changed. You've explained this idea to me perfectly.

What other ideas have people already put forward to explain QAO?

For these verbs, you are right - and not only that, you've managed to 
explain to me the entire QAO problem, which I didn't grasp before.

As well, in Jiri's message, the sentence which he sent seemed like an 
indirect quotation (which you have also already explained).

 > or
 >
 >     nuq tlhIHchu' 'e' ghaHvaD yIQIj
 >     Explain to him who you really are

>/nuq tlhIHchu'/?  Yuck!

How far can we stretch the pronoun-as-verb complex? I personally have used 
such things as <<ghaHbogh>>, <<jIHbej>> and others. Are these correct, or 
should I be looking for something different (and correct)?

Qapla' 'ej Satlho'

ro'Han

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