tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Fri May 04 13:13:34 2001
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Re: tuQaHlaH'a' ?
From: "...Paul" <[email protected]>
> How about:
>
> bijatlhvIS batlh DaDel
>
> I don't have my TKD with me; I don't remember if -vIS verbs have to go
> after or before... But basically, "When you spoke, you described honor."
This works, though don't forget the obligatory /-taH/ whenever you use
/-vIS/ -- /bIjatlhtaHvIS/.
And of course it only works in cases where one "describes" honor. If it was
"questioned" or "denied" or something else, choose another verb in place of
/Del/. I definitely prefer /Del/ over /qel/, though, as a matter of style.
> If you want to get more complex, how about
>
> <complicated bit> 'e' DaDel bIjatlhvIS batlh
(What's that /batlh/ doing at the end there?)
More complex as in something like "You told me about the three pillars of
honor"? In such a case, the /'e'/ wouldn't be necessary:
batlh wej 'ay'mey DaDel jIHvaD bIjatlhtaHvIS.
> Going out on a limb, how about:
>
> wa'hu' batlh wI'ja'chuq
>
> "Yesterday we discussed honor" (not sure if it shoudn't be "batlhvaD";
> does ja'chuq take an object?)
No, it doesn't. /ja'chuq/ is a verb plus a suffix, not a distinct verb.
For instance, you could never say /ja'chuqHa'/, but you could conceivably
say /ja'Ha'chuq/ (/-Ha'/ always comes before any other suffixes). Since
verbs with /-chuq/ don't HAVE objects (the object is the same as the
subject), they always take a "no object" verb prefix and don't have
suffixes. That /ja'chuq/ is not a distinct verb has been confirmed by Marc
Okrand.
It'd be convenient if we could say */quv wIja'chuq/ "We discuss honor," but
we can't. This is why I suggest /quv'e' maja'chuq/ "On the topic of honor,
know this: we confer."
wa'Hu' batlh'e' maja'chuq.
SuStel
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