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Re: was: `dative' / KLBC



jIja'pu':
> ja'chuqDaq Dojbe' tlhIngan Hol jatlhmeH laH.

ja' pIl'o':
> a typo? did you mean to write <ja'chuqDI'>?

ghobe'.  lugh mu'wIj.  DIp 'oH je <ja'chuq>'e'...

Okay, so I twisted the idea of the ancient Succession Ritual a bit.  I
meant that among Trek fans, the ability to speak Klingon doesn't seem to
count for much in the way of bragging rights.  Foreheads and baldrics trump
syntax and vocabulary.

jIH:
> laH cha' nav neHlaw'.

pIl'o':
> If the <cha'> is noun, "two", then I don't understand the sentence. If it
>is the
>homonym (is that the right word?) verb form wouldn't it need a verb syntactic
>marker like <-bogh>?

The verb {neH} is special.  The pronoun {'e'} isn't used when {neH} is the
second verb of a Sentence As Object construction.  Try reading it again,
keeping that in mind.

>loQ  jImISlI'.   Do you mean two negatives mean a positive, two negatives
>are the
>negative emphasized or two negatives are ungrammatical, therefore forbidden?

A single negative is enough to negate the idea.  A second negative tends to
negate the negation, thus saying something close to a positive.  There are
languages where a negation idea requires "negative" grammar in multiple
places in a sentence, but Klingon is not one of them.

-- ghunchu'wI' 'utlh




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