tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Sun Feb 18 21:26:50 2001
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RE: pong
jIpong'egh. jIjatlh <<SarrIS>>. [Using Okrandian speech words]
SarrIS mupong tlhInganpu'. [Using prefix shortcut]
SarrIS vIponglu'. [Using prefix shortcut and {-lu'}]
jIHvaD SarrIS lupong tlhInganpu'. [Using indirect object]
jIHvaD SarrIS ponglu'. [Using indirect object]
SarrIS 'oH pongwIj'e'. [Using pronoun as "to be" verb]
chay' bIpong'egh?
chay' Dupong latlhpu'?
nuq 'oH ponglIj'e'?
All of these are grammatically valid. So far, we've been given no reason to
think any of them are sufficiently wrong to avoid using any of them. There
may be a commonly used idiomatic way to say this, but we haven't seen it
yet. I don't think that the English way to say this is any more idiomatic
than any of the other languages mentioned below.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Pennington [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 5:05 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: pong
>
>
> Hello fellow Klingon freaks...I mean speakers:
>
> Recently, the subject of "pong" came up in a dialog
> with a new memeber. Many people have debated this over
> the years, although I have not seen these debates, and
> as I recall, the results have been inclusive. Let me
> throw in my 10 cents at this time.
>
> Most people who have debated this have been native
> English speakers. Ergo, most people have been trying
> to say "My name is..." in Klingon. This doesn't work
> too well. I think that a little look at some other
> languages is needed to solve this. For instance, in
> both the French "Je m'appelle..." and the Spanish "Me
> llamo...," the phrase literally translated to "I call
> myself...." Another language, still English but about
> 1200 years old, says "... min namma." This essentially
> means "...my name" or "... is my name." While none of
> these are exact translations into Klingon, I think
> that they do help open the minds of Klingon speakers.
> To tell you the truth, I think that a good one would
> be "pong...." Very blunt, to the point, and most
> Klingon.
>
> Matthew
>
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