ja' HomDoq: >the <ich> sound is a voiceless *palatal* fricative (if you voice >it you get something like a hissing j (German) or y (English)), >it is nothing like any Klingon sound. My untrained ear hears that German sound as quite similar to the end of a Klingon {tlh}, especially if the {tlh} is pronounced forcefully. -- ghunchu'wI' 'utlh (Germany ghoStaHvIS}