tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Apr 04 08:07:06 2001
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RE: KLBC: HoghwIj
- From: "Stauffer, Tad E (staufte7)" <[email protected]>
- Subject: RE: KLBC: HoghwIj
- Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 11:05:34 -0400
Robert said:
> qay'pu' HoghwIj. cha'les 'oHlaw' jaj'e' Qov 'e' vIQub
>
As Qov pointed out, her name doesn't mean anything in Klingon. You probably
want the verb {Qav} ("be last, final") here instead of {*Qov}.
Your "to-be" construction here is almost perfect. However, on page 50 of
TKD, there's a brief rule about using verbs as adjectives. It says that when
you are using a verb to describe a noun adjectivally, type-5 suffixes go
after the verb.
So when you use the phrase {jaj Qav} ("the final day"), the type-5 noun
suffix {-'e'} should go at the end on {Qav}, and not on {jaj}. So you would
want to use:
{cha'leS 'oHlaw' jaj Qav'e'.} "The last day is apparently the day after
tomorrow."
{cha'leS 'oHlaw' jaj Qav'e'. 'e' vIQub} "I thought that the last day is
apparently the day after tomorrow."
(This same comment applies to the rest of your message.)
> 'ej jIQaptaH 'e' vItaghta'.
>
{Qap} is used for "work" in the sense of functioning correctly. For example,
{Qapbe' Hoqra'wIj} "My tricorder doesn't work (i.e., it's broken)". {vum}
("work, toil") would probably be a better verb to use for your sentence
here.
Also, on page 66 of TKD, it says that the second verb of a
sentence-as-object construction doesn't use an aspect suffix. So the second
verb here would just be {vItagh} and not {vItaghta'}.
> 'ach cha'les 'oHHa' jaj'e' Qov.
>
Again, just note that the last word should be {Qav}, and you should move the
{-'e'} onto it. Saying {'oHHa'} here seems rather unique, but I'll accept
it. :-)
> jar tlha' 'oH jaj'e' Qov.
>
It looks like you used {jar tlha'} to mean "the following month". However,
{tlha'} is to "follow" something, and not "be following". Instead, you could
use the verb {veb}, which is "be next (in a series or sequence)":
{jar veb} "the next month"
> vaj jIbuSnISbe'. tlhIngan Hol vIqeqbe'. vaj jabbI'ID nuD *taD 'e' vItul.
>
maj.
> My week has been packed. I thought my deadline was on Monday and I started
> a new job. But my deadline is in fact next month. I haven't practiced my
> Klingon so I would be grateful if Tad can check over this note.
>
> Two main things, I've tried to use adjectives and 'to be' constructions.
> The last example in the Dictionary seemed to imply I could do what I've
> done but it didn't really give any guidelines so I'm probably way off
> mark.
>
You did well using adjectives and the 'sentence-as-to-be' construction. Your
only problem with it was with the suffix {-'e'}. On page 50 of TKD, it shows
an example of using a type-5 noun suffix with verbs. Although the example
uses {-Daq}, keep in mind that {-'e'} is also a type-5 noun suffix, and so
it goes after the verb.
- taD
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