tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Sun Jul 02 17:13:12 2000
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RE: Deixis and direction
- From: Eric Andeen <[email protected]>
- Subject: RE: Deixis and direction
- Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 17:12:42 -0700
> >> if someone grabbed your arm, pointed and whispered excitedly
> >> {HewDaq yIlegh! vIHtaH!} what else do you think she meant but
> >> "towards the statue"?
> >
> > I'd think she was some alien doing a piss poor job of
> > speaking Klingon. That obviously should be {Hew yIlegh!
> > vIHtaH!}
jIjatlh:
> And I would think that *something on the statue* was moving.
> I'd look for a bird or something, and when I didn't see it,
> I'd ask <vIH nuq?>.
jatlh charghwI':
> What I said clearly means, "See the statue! It moves!" To this,
> you would ask, "What moves?" I find that very curious. It doesn't
> mean "Look toward the statue!" It means, "See the statue." Why
> would I ask you to see the statue in order to watch something
> else move?
I should have been more clear. I was responding to the original sentence:
<HewDaq yIlegh! vIHtaH!>. <Hew yIlegh!> can only mean one thing - exactly
what it's supposed to - but <HewDaq yIlegh!> is much less clear. Here are a
couple of examples:
puvtaH ghew. DaH Saqpu'. HewDaq yIlegh!
'IHqu' veng. HewDaq yIQam 'ej veng yIlegh!
In the first, you're looking at a bug on the statue. In the second, you're
standing at the statue and looking at the city. I just can't wrap my brain
around a case where you're looking at the statue.
pagh