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Re: Hello



Admiral Be'jen zantai-minn'hor asked:

: I've subscribed to this list for a while, but this is my first posting. I'd 
: like to ask a question: I have a friend who is becoming Klingon and needs a 
: good name.  The best-fitting name for her would be something like "Stands 
: With a Fist", the character from the movie "Dances With Wolves". Can anyone 
: give me a Klingon equivalent?  Thank you!

The problem, as you know, is that Klingon doesn't have a preposition meaning
"with" - either in the sense of accompany (tay') or use (lo') - but must use a
verb phrase to render the idea.  So you need to ask her what exactly "Stands
With a Fist" means to her; ask her to phrase it in the form of a sentence.

Coincidentally, there's a similar Klingon expression from _Klingon for the
Galactic Traveller_ that you can adapt:

  ro'lIj HI'ang!
  Show me your fist! 

Okrand explains it as:

  "an idiomatic expression used to challenge someone to take
   action in a manner consistent with something he or she has
   just said." (KGT p.195)

So we can call her {ro' 'angwI'} or {ro''angwI'} - one or two words, her
preference - to mean "one who shows a fist".  If you want to, you could expand
this to {ro'Daj 'angwI'} - "one who shows his/her fist" (two words only) - but
I think this is unnecessary over-precision.  (Whose fist other than her own
could she show?)

And the advantage of using a Klingon idiom is that she gets to explain a bit of
Klingon culture to her friends when they ask her what her name means.



-- 
Voragh                       
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons


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