tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Oct 27 00:20:10 1999
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RE: KLBC: Undoubtedly continue to..
- From: "Klingon Honour" <[email protected]>
- Subject: RE: KLBC: Undoubtedly continue to..
- Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:20:00 EST
>>jatlhpu' ngghoy: 1. How does one say "You (!) undoubtedly continue to
>>cause to be difficult to her on this situation" ?
*The exclamation marks the item to be emphasised.
>jatlhpu' pagh: I'm not sure I understand the English . . .
mu’meywIjmo' qamISmoHpu'bogh jIQoS
chaq mu'tlheghvam QaQ law' 'e' QaQ puS.. "You certainly are being difficult
(to her) about this!"
>jatlhpu' Mark: I think what you're asking for here is how to get something
>which uses the meanings in the suffixes in the "wrong" order.
majQa'
This was exactly my point Mark! I was pondering about expressions with a
line of suffixes that follow in a different order to the way that I mean. I
thought that if the positioning of rovers is significant, what about the
rest of the suffixes and the possible ordering of other surrounding elements
like adverbs and/or a 'conjunction clause as a relative clause' all in the
one sentence?
Mark's guideline of:
1) suffix-meanings *usually* apply in (roughly) the order given.. and
you should try other sensible orderings that make more sense, if the default
one doesn't work.
This makes sense but then I can seen the possibility of ambiguity like one
of the earlier examples that I gave:
{qarchu'be'} or {qarbe'chu'}?
The actual written sentence was: qarchu'be'
However, I felt the context indicated the meaning of "(this is) clearly not
true" - possible, especially if one grants that the writer could have made a
common slip up and left the be' in the "default" position on the end of the
string.
But then again, maybe it really DID mean "It is not clearly/completely
accurate" (pagh) or colloqially "That's not quite right." (Alan) and it was
I who misinterpreted it.
If context in tlhIngan Hol still leaves ambiguity, what have we left?
ngghoy
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