tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Mar 17 15:55:14 1999
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Re: 'Iv jIH?
- From: "William H. Martin" <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: 'Iv jIH?
- Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 18:56:37 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
- Priority: NORMAL
On Tue, 16 Mar 1999 14:23:44 -0800 (PST) Zrajm C Akfohg
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On 16-Mar-99, William H. Martin wrote:
> > According to Zrajm C Akfohg:
> >>
> >> De'vam yIlaD!
>
> > vIlaDpu'.
>
> maj. DaH De' chu' yIlaD!
batlh bIjatlh.
> >> *Zrajm* lupong jupwI'.
>
> > ponglIj jatlhlaHchu'be' tlhInganpu'.
>
> bIlugh 'ach pongwIj vIwuqbe'pu'.
> *maHvatlh* jIpong'egh, wa'Hu' vIwuqta'.
If we go by our current understanding of the verb {pong}, that
should be <<jIHvaD *maHvatlh* vIpong.>> Another way this might
be said is: <<jIHvaD *maHvatlh* lupongnIS tlhInganpu' wa'Hu' 'e'
vIwuq.>>
> >> *Uppsala*Daq juHwIj vIghaj.
>
> > *Uppsala* DaDab. mu' <<Dab>> DaghovlaHbe'chugh vaj *Klingon for
> > the Galactic Traveler* yISam. juH Dablu'.
>
> yIyaj. paqvam vIghaj. jIQubchu'be' neH. DaH qay'be'.
maj.
> >> *Sweden*Daq veng 'oH, *Uppsala*'e'.
>
> > *English* DajatlhlaH'a'? chaq tlhIngan Hol neH wIlo'nIS. Daj.
>
> chaq *Sverige* wIlo'laH'a'?
> SepvamDaq pongDaj 'oH, Sep'e'.
jIyajbe'.
> 'ach tlhIngan pong 'oHbe' je.
>
> >> *university*mo' *Sweden*Daq noy *Uppsala*.
>
> > maj.
>
> >> *university*Daq HolQeD, *Swedish* pab je vIHaD.
>
> > *Sweden*ngan Hol vIyajbe'chu'. loQ *Denmark*ngan Hol
> > vIHaDchoHpu' 'ach not jIghojqu'. "For for ikke for, for for
> > lam." reH mumISmoH mu'mey <<muder>> <<mudder>> je.
>
> Daj. *Sweden*ngan Hol vIjatlhchugh vIjatlhnIS "Får får inte får, för får får
> lamm". loQ tlhaQ mu'tlheghvam.
reH mu'tlheghvam jatlhlu'DI' Haghchu' Hoch *Denmark*ngan. not
Doy'moH. not DalchoH. chaHvaD qIDna' 'oHchu'.
> <<muder>> <<mudder>> je yIQIj! <<SoS>> jatlh'a' wa'?
HIja'. <<chot>> 'oS latlh. chay' *muder mudder* mughlu'? <<chot
SoS>>? <<SoS yIchot>>? jISovbe'.
> >> naDev jupwI' law' je.
>
> > naDev law' jupwI'.
>
> <<je>> vIlo'laHbe', 'e' vIHar'a'? vaj *TKD p.55* yIlaDnIS!
mu'tlheghlIjDaq wotna' 'oH nuq'e'? <<naDev jupwI' law' je.>>
"Here my many friends also." qay'be' <<je>>. qay' mutlhegh naQ.
> >> *friday* maghom jIH, jupwI'.
>
> > *Friday* maghom jIH jupwI' je. mamI'. QoQ wImuch.
>
> cham QoQ vIparHa'. QoQ 'ugh vIparHa'qu'.
> cha'Hu' ram mI'wI' vInaj. Huj.
bInajDI' mI'chu''a' mI'wI'? chay' Huj?
> >> Dargh matlhutlh 'ej majatlhchuq.
>
> > mamI'qu'mo' bIQ wItlhutlhqu'. DIrmajvo' bIQ nargh.
>
> 'e' vIHar. jImI'taHvIS jISaghchu'be'. rut lopno' vImuv 'ej HIq vItlhutlh.
> rut chech 'ach pIj chechbe'.
maj. chechlu'DI' mI'laHchu'be'. rut jIchechpu' 'e' vIpay 'ach
not jImI'chu'pu' 'e' vIpay.
> pIj tlhejchuq neH jIH, jupwI' je. Dargh matlhutlh. majatlh. 'e' QaQ.
Again, you have {'e'} as the direct object of {QaQ}. Examine
this. You are trying to say something that is easier to say in
English (and probably Swedish, too) than it is in Klingon. Maybe
recast it something like {Dargh matlhutlhmo' 'ej majatlhmo' QaQ
wanI'} or use {'e' vItIv}.
> 'ach jImI'laHpu', wa' jaj 'e' vIghoj.
Ummm. That sounds like you can't dance but you don't know it
yet. "But one day I will learn that I have not been able to
dance." DaH jImI'laHbe' 'ach ghaytan mI'meH mIw vIghoj.
> >> motlh yInwIj vItIv.
>
> > DatIvbe'chugh Dalo'Ha'.
>
> jIQochbe'. bIlugh.
>
> > reH yInmeymaj DInatlhnIS. DInatlhchu'jaj!
>
> tlhIngan Hol vIjatlh vaj yInwIj vIlo'chu'.
> yIn nI' yISIQ 'ej yIchep!
'ej yIn nI' DaSIQpu'DI' 'ej bIcheppu'DI', batlh bIHeghjaj!
> > charghwI' 'utlh
>
> /maHvatlh, ghojwI'
>
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