tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Jan 07 20:05:08 1999
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Re: Noun suffixes, type 5
- From: [email protected]
- Subject: Re: Noun suffixes, type 5
- Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 23:04:46 EST
In a message dated 1/7/1999 9:19:20 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< Your argument is well stated and well taken. Meanwhile, I think
there is a slippery slope one would encounter while trying to
assign the threshold of functionality for {lel}. You say it
works for a sword from a sheath and food from a refrigerator.
Does it work for nuH from a nuH bey'? Stones from a pile? Blood
from a patient? Water from a stream? Wood from a tree? Since
there is no distinct verb for this, you prefer that there is no
verb for this at all rather than that there is this verb
stretched beyond your preference? >>
I would not use {lel} for "take food from a refrigerator"; Qov used it. I
would have used {tlhap}. This works for {nuH bey'vo' nuH tlhap vay'}. Either
{tlhap} or {Suq} may work for stones from a pile. Blood from a patient might
be {SID porghvo' 'Iw QaymoH jan}. Water from a stream: I need to know if we
are using a pail, pump, or if the water is flowing from the stream of its own
accord, perhaps into another body of water. Wood from a tree? Perhaps I
would {tlhap} or {Suq}. I probably would find uses for {nge'}, too.
In Atayal there are distinct words for separate concepts such as these.
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