Re: VS1, VS4, VS5

[Marc Ruehlaender <ruehli@iastate.edu>]

This is going to be quite technical...

> ja' Holtej:
> >Here's a grammatical question; I'd like to hear people's opinions.  What do
> >you make of this:
> >
> >vIqIp'eghmoHlu'
> 
In order to get an idea of what it might mean, here are some steps
that I've been taken...

a) straightforward are

<O> qIp <S>.           <S> hits <O>.
qIp'egh <S>.           <S> hits itself.
<S>vaD <O> qIpmoH <C>. <C> makes <S> hit <O>.
<O> qIplu'.            One hits <O>.

b) combine two of the three suffixes:

<S>vaD qIp'eghmoH <C>. <C> makes <S> hit itself.
<O> qIp'eghmoH <C>.    <C> makes itself hit <O>.

qIp'eghlu'.            One hits oneself.

<S>vaD <O> qIpmoHlu'.  One makes <S> hit <O>.
<O> qIpmoHlu' <C>.     <C> makes one hit <O>.

c) all three suffixes:

<S>vaD qIp'eghmoHlu'.  One makes <S> hit itself.
<O> qIp'eghmoHlu'.     One makes oneself hit <O>.
qIp'eghmoHlu' <C>.     <C> makes one hit oneself.

As vI- indicates a subject, that must be <C>, and also an
object, that must be <O> (the IO shortcut doesn't work here),
but I cannot figure out how to have both, I'd be left confused...

any thoughts?

                                           Marc Ruehlaender
                                           aka HomDoq
                                           ruehli@iastate.edu