RE: KLBC: The Klingon Hamlet? (also WOTD)

["Andeen, Eric" <Eric.Andeen@Sequencia.com>]

> This is the Klingon Word Of The Day for Wednesday, December 15, 1999.
> 
> Klingon word:   pIm
> Part of Speech: verb
> Definition:     be different

jatlh De'vID:

> DaHjaj tlhIngan Hol mu' vIlo' 'e' vInID.
> = I'm going to try to use the Klingon Word of The Day.
> Hmmm... how does one say "Klingon Word of The Day", 
> since the above might be interpreted as "Today I will 
> use a Klingon word.")

This works fine for me. I knew what you were talking about.

> Maybe this is better:
> tlhIngan Hol DaHjaj mu' vIlo' 'e' vInID.
> = I'm going to try to use the Klingon language's word of today.

Now it sounds like a "word of the day" is some sort of weird grammatical
feature of Klingon. The first way was better.

> > Doch wa' / Item #1
> > The Klingon Hamlet
> >
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0671035789/o/qid=944998921/sr=8-1/002
-2163916-7053056
> 
> > nuq 'oH paqvam'e'?  qonpu' KLI beqpu'?
> > What's this book?  Is it by the KLI?
> 
> HIja'. paqvam qonbej tlhIngan Hol yejHaD.

> chay' "hardcover Hamlet"vo' pIm paqvam?
> = How is this book different from the hardcover version of Hamlet?
> (Not really sure how to use <pIm> "be different" to say "be
> different *from*".  I may be abusing the Klingon meaning of 
> <-vo'> here.)

The Klingon <-vo'> is only for action which is physically directed away from
the noun.

You can't really say "be different from", but you can just say "be
different": <chay' pIm "hardcover Hamlet", paqvam je?>. Make both things the
subject, and <pIm> states that they are different.

> Maybe instead:
> "hardcover Hamlet" rurbe'chugh paqvam chay' pIm?
> = If it's not the same as the hardcover Hamlet then how's it different?
> (This seems clumsier but avoids using "different *from*".)

> [When I refer to "hardcover Hamlet" here, I am talking about
> "Hamlet, Prince of Denmark, the Restored Klingon Version" which
> was put out by the KLI in 1996.]

tlhoS rap. loQ paq chu'vaD mu'mey luDublu' 'e' vIpIH. pImba' paqmey

> > ghaH 'Iv <Dave Stern>'e'?
> > Who is "Dave Stern"?  (Not sure if I have the word order right here.)
> 
> You don't. Unlike English, Klingon doesn't alter its word order at all for
> questions. <'Iv> and <nuq> go in exactly the same place their answer would
> go:
> 
> 'Iv ghaH <Dave Stern>'e'?
> 
> 'ej <Dave Stern> vISovbe' jIH.

Hmm... I seem to recall <SoH 'Iv>, perhaps from PK?  I am thinking that
it should be <'Iv SoH> according to what you wrote.


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De'vID



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