tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Dec 08 01:32:34 1999
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Re: Question of title
- From: "Qor'etlh valwI'na', Daq marr tuq" <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: Question of title
- Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 04:31:31 -0500
- Organization: Klingon Language Institute
- References: <[email protected]>
Thorwald Peeters hat gefragt:
> > I'm wondering if my translation of the following sentence
> > Bio of Lieutenant QIna'a, daughter of JoraQ, of the house Manoq
> > as
> > QIna'a Sogh sutai-Manoq, JoraQ puqbe' yIn lut
> > is correct/ amendable.
Antwortet Voragh:
> In proper {ta' Hol} this is:
> QIna'a Sogh joraQ puqbe' manoq tugh yIn lut
> > I'm especially uncertain about the combination of house with
"daughter of".
> Note the order: given name, parent's name, House name. Without the
rank she's:
> QIna'a joraQ puqbe' (manoq tugh)
> Qinaa, daughter of JoraQ (of the House of Manoq)
OMG! Voragh, for the first time in 5 years, I have caught you in a
mistake.
You're slipping;
tugh = soon (adv) TKD , p110
tuq = tribe, house, ancestral unit (noun) KGT p228
And where, precisely do you find this specific 'Order' of precedence?
I was tasked with this recently, and tried for days to nail down a
confirmed naming convention (for honoring guests and Line members at
a Klingon Feast). All I could find were some examples.
<KLIP>
> IIRC, the *klingonaase* formula in _The Final Reflection_ didn't
use a
> patronymic; it was just the given name, rank, Line name (Qinaa
sutai-Manoq).
> As I understand it, a *sutai* is the rough equivalent of a {Sogh},
so you
> probably wouldn't use the two together. But you need to adhere to
the
> rank/name formulae of your RPG.
I have the books here [FASA, all of them] and cannot find any clearly
defined lineages in them either.
Yes, I have derived a simple formula (see sig. below), but it is far
from Canon.
Would you please cite your source material for Formulae?
I have tried, and confess that I am not your clerical equal.
You have always been a great resource.
You are still the Canon Master.
Thanks again, as always,
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