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Re: RE: Samhain [Off Topic] (was:RE: qISmaS) [veering back on topic]



On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:47:54 -0700  "Andeen, Eric" 
<[email protected]> wrote:

> jIja' pagh:
> > > The Klingon word for "Christmas" would be "Christmas". 
> > > Since Christmas is not a Klingon holiday, there is no 
> > > word for it in Klingon, just like there is no American 
> > > English word for the Irish holiday of Samhain.
> > 
> > *Ahem*. Halloween (All Hallow's Eve).
> 
> Actually, Samhain is on November first, so it would be All Saints Day rather
> than Halloween. And Samhain dates back far earlier than Christianity. Like
> many other traditional holidays, it was later Christianized. Lúnasa would
> probably have been a better example - I don't know of any other holidays on
> August fisrt. And just to get back on topic . . . 
>
> Dajbej tera'ngan lalDan yupma', qar'a'?

Hujbej. Daj'a'? jISovbe'. jIHvaD Dajbe' 'ach taQqu'.

> law'bej, 'ej Hujqu' 'op tIghchaj.
> Christmas lopmeH, pIvtaHbogh Sor pe'lu'chu' 'ej juH qoDDaq lanlu'.

juH qoDDaq lam luneHbe'. gheymey neHbe'. Ha'DIbaHmey neHbe'. 
'ach wa' Sor neH.

> QIt
> Heghba' Sorvam, 'ach SaHbe'law' pe'wI'pu'.

Sor lujoy'. Sorvo' nobmey poQ. voHDajbo'Hey 'oH. nobmey nge'DI' 
Sor luwoD.

> Sorchaj luneH neH. 'IHmoHlaw'meH,
> SorDaq 'aH law' lulan.

<<lulan>>?

> roD 'oHDaq wovwI'Hommey lulan.

<<lulan>>?

> rut weQmey mach lulan,

<<lulan>>?

> 'ach Qoblaw'mo' tIghvam, lojchoHlI'.

wejpuH. ghu' Qob luHaj Hoch tera'nganpu' net Sov.

> Sor bIngDaq nobmey lulan.

<<lulan>>?

> roD 'op nob
> Hev Hoch, 'ach reH nob law' Hevlaw' puqpu', 'ej puqpu'vaD potlhqu'law'
> tIghvam.

qut.

> Do' qaStaHvIS lopmeH poH (wa' jaj neH 'oH yupma'na', 'ach nI'bej lopmeH poH
> naQ)

je'meH poH Dachelba'.

> qaS *football* Quj'a'mey law'. tlhoS Qujvam tIvlaH tlhIngan: loQ may'
> rur. Doghbej Quj chutmey, 'ach ral Quj 'ej 'Iw tujmoH.

ngajqu' may'mey. ghIq maloS. taghDI' Quj maloS. DoS pupruptaHvIS 
QujwI' maloS. DoS pupDI' puvtaHvIS DoS qet QujwI'pu'. DoS jon 
wa' QujwI' 'ej qeng. luHIv latlh. pumDI' qengwI' mev Hoch. 
maloS. QotHa' Hoch. maloS. QIt yIt Hoch. maloS. QIt ghom Hoch. 
maloS. nabchoH ghommey. maloS. ghobchuqrup ghommey. maloS. jach 
wa' QujwI'. maloS. poSDaq jaghpu' nej. maloS. nIHDaq jaghpu' 
nej. maloS. jachqa'. maloS. jachqa'. maloS. pay' Suv. 
qaStaHvIS jav lup, DoS lujaD 'ej qet Hoch. ghIq maloSqa'. DoS 
Quv juv. maloS.

Qujvam vItIvbe'. ghobchuqlI'ghach vIloSqangbe'.
 
> pagh
> 
> p.s. The preceding was intented as a (mostly) humorous view of the the
> holiday season (mostly Christmas) in modern American life from a Klingon
> perspective, and (mostly) does not reflect my own human views on the
> subject. 'ej Dumaw'chugh, yIlaDQo'.

Dumaw'chugh? pagh QoghIj nIH 'Iv?

QISmaS vImuS. wagh. HeDaq muqev Hoch. SuyDaq muqev Hoch. Dat moH 
QoQ. QIp bommey. qorDu' lop Hoch 'ach qorDu' vIHutlh. SoS be'nI' 
je vIghaj 'ach qorDu'qoq neH wIchenmoHlaw'. bang ghaj SoSwI' 'ej 
parmaqqay ghaj be'nI'wI'. nIteb jIHtaH.

nIteb jIQuch. QoQ 'ey vImuch. ngemDaq jIyIt. juHwIj vItIvchu'. 
'ach QISmaS vImuS.

charghwI'



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