tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Nov 18 10:37:25 1998
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RE: KLBC - pagh, cholIjchu'neS'a'?
- From: "Andeen, Eric" <[email protected]>
- Subject: RE: KLBC - pagh, cholIjchu'neS'a'?
- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 11:34:38 -0700
lab tuv'el:
I think I've seen sections one through three before, and they look good. I
will comment on the rest.
> KLBC - pagh, cholIjchu'neS'a'?
>
> jIcheghta'! vaj lutwIj vIja'rupqa'.
>
>
> <tera'Daq lengwIj wa'DIch> 'ay' wa'
> lut qon tuv'el, pach puqloD
>
> jogh wa'Daq tera' tu'lu'. Human juHqo' 'oH. qIbvamDaq tera'
> Huj law' Hoch qo' Huj puS. tera' mach law' Qo'noS mach puS.
> vaj jIHvaD pujlaw' tera' tlham. <San veranSISqo'> vengDaq
> jIpawDI' Qapbe'qa' mughwI'wIj. Do' jIQuptaHvIS DIvI' Hol
> vIHaD. jIghung; qagh vIrur. vaj tera' Soj qub jabbogh
> Qe' vInej. <'Italyan> Qe' vItu' 'ej vI'el. jabwI'vaD
> jIjatlh <jIHvaD Soj tlhorgh yIqem>. tlhorghHa'qu' Sojqoq
> qembogh. vutwI' quv vIqIH 'e' vIpoQ 'ej jIjatlh <Sojvam
> vISoplaHbe'. DaH jIHvaD Soj jej yIqem!> muyajHa'mo' jIHvaD
> pIpyuS pach qem. mebpa'meyDaq jIpawDI' qagh vISuq 'e' vInID
> 'ach qagh Qop neH vIHev jay'! tera' vISuchqa'chugh tlhIngan
> leng Soj law' vIqembej.
>
> <tera'Daq lengwIj wa'DIch> 'ay' cha'
>
> tunqu' QongDaqwIj vaj ravDaq jIQong. jIvemDI' <San DI'eygho'>
> vengDaq Hu vIleghmeH jIjaH. HochHom tera' Ha'DIbaHmey vIlegh.
> Sargh tIn rurbogh Ha'DIbaH vIlegh 'ach tIqqu' mongDaj. jIjatlh
> <Sargh rurlaw' Ha'DIbaHvetlh.> muQoy tera'ngan be'Hom Qup 'ej
> mujang <ghobe'. <jI'rav> 'oH Ha'DIbaHvetlh'e' 'ach bIQ'a'Daq
> yIn Sarghmey.> bIQDep yoSDaq jI'elpa' ghaH vIyajbe'qu' jIH.
> <SarIq> vIlegh. norgh rur tera' Ha'DIbaHvam. vaj mIS tera'ngan
> be'Hom. Qo'noS Ha'DIbaH yoS ngaS Hu. pa' vIratlhtaHvIS tlham HoS
> vItIvchu'. Qo'noS ghor rurbej yoSvam 'ach wa' Qagh Sagh tu'lu'.
> SorDaq So'taHbogh yIH 'up tu'lu'! vIHoH 'e' vInID 'ach mubot
> Surchem. Hu ra'wI' vIchuH. Qo'noSDaq yIHmey yInbe'qu'. yIHmey
> muSchu'qu' Hoch tlhInganpu'. tlhIngan juHqo' 'oHHa' yIHmey
> juHqo''e'. QeHqu'choHmo' ghaH jImer. nongqu'laH Humanpu' 'e'
> vISovbe'; vulqanganpu' rurbe''a'?
>
> ramvetlh <tay> Qe' vItu'. qabqu'be' <tay> Soj.
>
> <tera'Daq lengwIj wa'DIch> 'ay' wej
>
> DaHjaj <parIS> veng vISuch. ram jIpaw. Human ghe'naQ vIQoy
> vIneH. tlhIngan ghe'naQ nIt 'oHbe'ba' Human ghe'naQ nItHa''e'!
> QoQchaj vIpar. <'ayvel> <luv> je vISuch. runHa'qu' <'ayvel>
> qach. Hewmey law' bey'mey law' je ngaS <luv> qach. betleH bey'
> vIlegh 'ej <'Iw 'Ip ghommey> rurbogh Hew vIlegh. Hewmey
> vIparHa'chu' 'ach Hujqu' bey'mey. tera' lalDan chIrgh
> tIQ vISuchDI' <gharghoyIl> Hew vIlegh. veqlargh rur
> <gharghoyIl>. Daj je Qorwaghmey nguv.
>
> veb <lonDon> veng. puH'a' <bIrIteyn> puHHom je rar bIQ'a'
> bIng 'och. naDev bogh SeQpIr. DIvI'vaD tlhIngan lutmey law'
> tlhIngan vIttlheghmey law' tlhIngan bommey law' je mugh
> SeQpIr. lutmeyvetlh vItlheghmeyvetlh bommeyvetlh je qon
> SeQpIr 'e' ponchu' Humanpu'. qech Doghqu' vInuSbej!
> <lonDon>Daq tera' nuH tIQ qach vISuch. 'obmaQmey ghanjaqemy
> jey'naSmey 'alngeghmey je vIlegh. HIchmey lutlh vIlegh 'ej
> yanwI' Hew vIlegh. Dajqu' Human veS qun 'e' vIHar. rallaw'
> Human no'. DaH ralHa'choHba'pu' Humanpu'. no'chaj vIHo'.
> 'Iw HoSmoH yol 'ach qa' pujmoH roj.
majQa'! Very nice use of suffixes on <ralHa'choHba'pu'>.
> <tera'Daq lengwIj wa'DIch> 'ay' loS
>
> DaHjaj <SImItlhonyan> yejHaD vISuch.
>
> puj Humanpu'; bIQ lurur, 'ach val; Huy'Du' rur.
>
> qun qach vISuchtaHvIS Hoch bey'mey vItIv. taHbe'pu'bogh
> Ha'DIbaHmey tIQ HomDu' vIHaD. Dajqu' loghQeD qach. janmey
> lutlhqu' chabmey chu' je ngaS qachvetlh.
> puvbogh Duj latlh vIlegh.
Yikes. This is a tough one. We know that <latlh> goes before the noun, not
after, but the <-bogh> clause makes it interesting. I would say this should
be <latlh puvbogh Dujmey>. Now I will duck and wait for other opinions.
> tera' bavbogh SIbDoH wa'DIch vIlegh.
> <venIQ> vIlegh je. pIvghor lo'bogh tera' Duj wa'DIch
> 'oH Dujvetlh'e'. <venIQ> wIch lut vIghoj. qul toQ 'oH
> <venIQ>'e'. vaghvatlh DISmey qaSDI' ru'choH qul toQ
> 'ach boghqa'.
I see what you're going for with <ru'choH> here, but I don't think this
usage of <ru'> really works here, although a good argument would convince
me. I would suggest something with <HeghrupchoH ... 'ach boghqa'>. Also
consider something with <jub>.
> <SIqagho'> vengDaq Soj 'ey jabtaHmeH tlhIngan Qe' vItu'.
> SojwIj vInoSbe'bejqu'.
majQa'!!! chaq tugh <SIqagho'> vISuch jIH'e'. nuqDaq 'oH Qe'vam'e'. DaH
HIja'!
> tera' vISuchtaHvIS 'e' vItIv. chaq boSuchnIS.
<tera' vISuchtaHvIS> cannot work as the first sentence in a SAO construction
- it's not a complete sentence. This looks like you fiddled with one part
of a sentence and forgot to change the rest.
> DaH vIrInchu'ta'.
maj.
> "My first voyage to Earth" part I
> story composed by Tuv'el, son of Claw
>
> Earth is found in the alpha quadrant. It is the homeworld of
> Humans. Earth is the strangest world in this galaxy. Earth
> is smaller than Kronos, so Earth's gravity seemed weak to me.
> When I arrived in the city of "San Francisco" my translator
> stopped working again. Luckily, I studied <English> while I
> was young. I was as hungry as gagh, so I looked for a
> restaurant that served Earth cuisine. I noticed an "Italian"
> restaurant and I went in. I said to the waiter, "Bring some
> pungent food for me." The so-called food he brought was very
> bland. I demanded to meet the head cook and I said, "I cannot
> eat this food. Bring me sharp food, now!" Because he
> misunderstood me, he brought me pipius claws. When I arrived
> at the hotel, I tried to order gagh, but I received only dead
> friggin' gagh! If I visit Earth again, I will certainly bring
> a lot of Klingon food to go.
>
> "My first voyage to Earth" part II
>
> My bed was too soft so I slept on the floor. As soon as I
> woke up, I went to the city of "San Diego" to see the zoo.
> I saw most of the animals of Earth. I saw an animal that
> looked like a large sark but it's neck was very long.
> I said, "That animal seems to resemble a sark." A little
> Terran girl heard me, and replied, "No, that's a giraffe.
> Sarks live in the ocean." I didn't understand her before
> I entered the fish area. I saw a "shark." This Earth
> animal looked like a norg. So, the Terran girl was confused.
> The zoo contained a section for the animals of Kronos. While
> I was there, I absolutely enjoyed the stronger gravity. This
> section undoubtedly resembled the surface of Kronos, but
> there was one serious error. There was a disgusting tribble
> hiding in a tree! I tried to kill it but was prevented
> by a force field. I explained clearly to the zoo's
> commander. Tribbles do not live on Kronos. All Klingon's
> utterly detest tribbles. The Klingon homeworld is not the
> homeworld of tribbles. I was surprised because he became
> very angry. I didn't know Humans could be so passionate.
> Do they not resemble Vulcans?
>
> I found a "Thai" restaurant that night. "Thai" food is not
> too bad.
>
> "My first voyage to Earth" part III
>
> Today I visited the city of Paris. I arrived at night. I
> wanted to listen to a Human opera. Impure Human opera is
> obviously not Klingon Grand Opera! I dislike their music.
> I visited the "Eiffel" and the "Louvre." The "Eiffel"
> building is very tall. The "Louvre" building contains many
> statues and displays. I saw a Bat'telh display and a statue
> that looked like "blood oath circles." I really liked the
> statues, but the displays were very strange. When I visited
> the ancient temple of an Earth religeon, I saw a "gargoyle"
> statue. A "gargoyle" resembles the Fek'lhr. The
> stained-glass windows were also interesting.
>
> The city of "London" was next. A tunnel under the ocean
> connects the mainland to the island of "Britain."
> Shakespeare was born hereabouts. Shakespeare translated
> many Klingon stories, proverbs, and songs for the
> Federation. Humans are absolutely convinced Shakespeare
> wrote those stories, proverbs, and songs. I certainly
> ridicule such a foolish idea! I visited a building of
> ancient Earth weaponry in "London." I saw axes, maces,
> double-headed axes, and axes with spikes on their ends.
> I saw primitive guns and a statue of a swordfighter.
> I believe the history of Human warfare is quite
> interesting. The Humans' ancstors were apparently
> violent. Now Humans have obviously become non-violent.
> I admire their ancestors. Conflict strengthens the blood
> while peace weakens the spirit.
>
> "My first voyage to Earth" part IV
>
> I visited the "Smithsonian" institute today.
>
> Humans are weak as water, but clever as an eyebrow.
>
> While I visited the History Building, I enjoyed all the
> displays. I studied the bones of ancient extinct animals.
> The Space Sciences Building was very interesting. That
> building contained the most primitive devices and the
> latest innovations. I saw a primitive flying vessel.
> I saw the first satellite to orbit the Earth. I also saw
> the "Phoenix." That ship was the first Earth vessel to
> use the warp drive. I learned the story of the myth
> of the "phoenix." The "phoenix" is a firebird. Every five
> hundred years, the firebird gets ready to die, but is reborn.
>
> I found a Klingon restaurant that served good food in the
> city of "Chicago." I most certainly did not nibble my food.
>
> I enjoyed visiting Earth. Perhaps you should visit it.
majQa'! lutvam vItIvqu'. Hoch taghwI'pu'vaD vIchupbej.
Very good story. I recommend it to all beginners.
pagh
Beginners' Grammarian