tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Tue Mar 03 10:57:33 1998
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Re: KLBC: ram Hurgh
- From: Steven Boozer <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: KLBC: ram Hurgh
- Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:54:07 -0600 (CST)
: ja' Qov :
:> I assumed the prefix and accepted the emphasis. English verbs don't take
:> prefixes. How can I strictly mark macaroni? You do have a correctly
:> self-referential sentence above, though: {muj mu'tlheghvetlh jay'} - jay'
:> goes at the end of the sentence.
:
: I thought {jay'} acted just like {neH}. {neH} follows the word it
: refers to. I wanted to say: <This sentence is xxxxing wrong.>, not
: <This xxxxing sentence is wrong.> Did I misunderstand something here?
:
: HovqIj
If Qov will permit, I'll interject with what I do best:
"This word not only intensifies whatever is being said, it turns the whole
phrase into an invective. Alone among the adverbials, {jay'} always comes
at the end of the sentence." (TKD p. 177)
Attestations in canon:
- qaStaH nuq jay'
What the #$%@ is happening? TKD
- mIch 'elpu' jay'
They've entered the @#$% sector! TKD
- SoH 'Iv jay'?
[Who the hell are you?] ST6 (untranslated)
- qaStaH nuq jay'?
[What the #$%@ is happening?] ST6 (untranslated)
- ghaytanHa' jay'
Not bloody likely! (Radio Times book)
Not canonical, but often used on the list and KEVE:
- *ghobe' jay'
Hell no! No f***ing way!
As Mark Shoulson wrote in HolQeD 3.1, it's a "generic grammatical
intensifier" - i.e. it acts on the *entire* phrase. If you really want to
stress one specific word in a sentence with {jay'}, you have to find another
way.
Voragh