tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Sun Aug 23 20:58:12 1998
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Re: the nature of pIqaD
ja' HomDoq:
>ghItlhmeH pat *phonemic* lo'lu'taHvIS, wa' *phoneme* Del Hoch *symbol*,
>'e' DaQubchugh, bIlughbe'.
>ghItlhmeH pat *phonemic* lo'lu'taHvIS, wa' *phoneme* <tlhegh> Del
>Hoch *symbol*.
jImIS. <tlhegh> Dalo', 'ach meq vIyajbe'.
chay' "phoneme" Delbe' "phonemic" pat? qatlh lughbe' "phonetic"?
jatlh mu'ghomwIj:
pho-ne-tic:
1. Of or relating to phonetics.
2. Representing the sounds of speech with a set of distinct symbols,
each designating a single sound.
qechwIj Delbej mu'meyvam.
>cha' *sound* Delchugh wa' *phoneme*, *sound*vaD *allophone* luponglu'.
maj, 'ach QIch Delchugh pat, "phonetic" pat 'oH 'e' vIHar. mu'ghom yIyu'.
>ghItlhmeH pat *phonetic* lo'lu'taHvIS, wa' *allophone* <tlhegh> Del
>Hoch *symbol*.
>ghItlhmeH pat *phonetic* lutu'be'lu', 'e' vIQub.
vaj nuq 'oH "syllabary"?
>> So I still think that the sketchy description of pIqaD that appears
>> in TKD is more consistent with a way to describe pronunciation than
>vaj, *phonemic*law' ghItlhmeH pat pIqaD.
Qo'! QIch Dellaw' pIqaD vaj "phonetic" pat 'oHlaw'! chay' jIlughbe'?
-- ghunchu'wI'