tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Sat Nov 22 10:26:53 1997
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Re: Hol chenmoHwi'pu' (was: Re: KLBC: insulting)
ja' "Anthony.Appleyard" <[email protected]>:
> Qov wrote:-
>> No one here predicted using jIH as the possessive for nouns of relative
>> position (i.e. we must say {jIH Dung} not {DungwIj} for "the area above
>> me.") and I don't remember ever hearing anyone doubt that possessive
>> suffixes could be used on such nouns. ...
>
> Sorry: but please what is the printed source reference for that rule?
"Klingon for the Galactic Traveler" discusses dialectical differences in
grammar. On page 24, we discover that there is a special set of nouns that
express what in English are "...prepositional concepts ('above,' 'below,'
and so on)..." and that pronouns are used with these nouns in a simple
noun-noun construction. But in the Sa'Qej region on Qo'noS, possessive
suffixes are used instead.
I learned Klingon from a group of Sa'Qej Hol speakers, and I'm probably
going to slip up on occasion and continue the dialectical usage. While
this won't be considered "wrong", it's not the "Emperor's Klingon" and
it's going to associate me with the Sa'Qej region. Which, as far as I'm
concerned, is not a bad thing.
> Tolkien 'oHbe' Okrand'e'. Middle Earth (= botlh tera') nganpu' HolmeyDaj
>chenmoHtaHDI' Tolkien, bIHvaD Hol qun "Sor" tIn Qatlh chenmoH. OkrandvaD
>Dajbe'law' rurbogh Hol qunmey.
KGT DalaDba'ta'be'. yISuq. yIlaD. yItIv.
-- ghunchu'wI'