tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Nov 17 02:17:13 1997

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Re: impersonal verbs (was: Re: ghunlu'wI')



  A.Appleyard wrote:-
> The pronoun prefixes in {Dalegh} / {Daleghlu'} seem to show that {X-lu'} is
> somewhere between a pure impersonal and a pure passive. {qoreQ Daleghlu'} =
> "unspecified sees you, Korax" ...

  "David Trimboli" <[email protected]> replied:-
> The name {qoreQ} here is being used as direct address. ...
> Your sentences are examples merely of direct address.
> qoreQ Daleghlu'.    Korex, someone sees you.
> Daleghlu' qoreQ.    Someone sees you, Korex.

  But the agreement rules of the all-3rd-person "they <verb> him" prefix {lu-}
also treats object as subject in the {-lu'} form:
    qoreQ lulegh beqpu' = the crewmen see Korax
    beqpu' luleghlu'    = one sees the crewmen, the crewmen are seen
  and there is no risk of an intruding vocative clouding the picture here.


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