tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Mar 26 06:03:46 1997

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RE: paqghommey



jatlh voqHa'wI':

> jatlh maqlIy:
> >> DaH tlhIngan Hol neH vIghoj.  chay' Qub ghotpu' 'e' vIghojmeH Holmey 
vIHad.
> >> I am learning only Klingon now.  I study languages in order to learn how
> >> people think. [Read Whorf at an impressionable age.]
> 
> jatlh SuStel:
> > What we have here is a question-as-object.  There is a lot of talk about 
> > whether this sort of thing would be allowed in Klingon.  I happen to
> believe it is not.  Does this make any sense to you:
> >
> > I study languages in order that I learn that how do people think?
> >
> > That's essentially how it comes off in Klingon. [...]
> 
> Well, if you read it off as two sentences you get
>     How do people think?
>     I study languages in order to learn that.
> 
> which is very readable, and probably the way you'd be thinking if you didn't
> want to do a DIvI' Hol translation.

What it's saying in Klingon is that you study languages in order to learn <a 
question>.  Personally, I try to learn facts, and *ask* questions.

It is very readable to you and me, native speakers (I assume) of a language 
which uses question-as-object.  In *Klingon*, we have no rules for it, we see 
no evidence for it, and the logic of the sentence isn't so hot.  I am yet to 
be convinced.  Besides, one can always find another way to say it.

-- 
SuStel
Beginners' Grammarian
Stardate 97233.6


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