tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Mar 13 12:15:26 1997
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Re: KLBC: semiotic nonsense for beginners
- From: Marc Ruehlaender <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: KLBC: semiotic nonsense for beginners
- Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 14:15:21 CST
Lawrence writes to us:
>
> If this doesn't make sense to you, imagine how my students feel
> in the morning!
>
indeed, I think you might not quite have meant what you've written..
>
> 'ov qeylIS molor je.
> lujbe'chugh qeylIS Qap'a' molor?
this seems to be more of a logical problem than a linguistic one...
nIvchugh wa', Qap 'ej luj latlh.
nIvbe'chugh cha', wej DuH vItu':
wa'DIch: Qap cha' (<<cha' quvmoHbogh DuH>> vIpong)
cha'DIch: luj cha' (<<cha' quvHa'moHbogh DuH>> vIpong)
wejDIch: Qapbe' cha' 'ej lujbe' cha' (<<DuH naQbe'>> vIpong)
teHchugh DuH cha'DIch, jIjang <<ghobe'>>;
teHbe'chugh DuH cha'DIch, jIjang <<yapbe' De'>>
> lujHa'chugh molor Qap'a' qeylIS?
using SuStel's interpretation of {lujHa'} as "pulling out of near failure"
lujHa'chugh molor, lujbe'; vaj jIjangmeH mu'tlhegh ram vIlo'
> lujHa'be'chugh qeylIS Qap'a' molor?
>
lujHa'be'chugh qeylIS, luj;
teHchugh DuH cha'DIch, jIjang <<yapbe' De'>>;
teHbe'chugh DuH cha'DIch, jIjang <<HIja'>>
>
> Suvchuq qang qor je.
> rInta'DI' yIn qang 'ej Hegh qor.
> rInta'DI' yInbe' qang 'ej Heghbe' qor.
> rInta'DI' yInHa' qang 'ej HeghHa' qor.
> rInta'DI' yInHa'be' qang 'ej HeghHa'be' qor.
> yInHa'be'chugh qang vaj HeghHa'be''a'?
>
like SuStel, I don't understand {yInHa'}; however, I can see
{HeghHa'} to mean "get better" as in "pulling out of near death" :-};
{yInbe'} probably means the same as {Heghpu'}, and I think as long
as you are dying you are still alive! (thus I could say
{Hegh cha' 'ej yIn cha' 'a tugh Heghpu' wa' 'ej HeghHa' latlh})
HomDoq