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RE: KLBC: The first time, Grammar check



peHruS, if you're using a PC, I recommend you click on Members, then 
Preferences, and then Mail.  Please turn off the Use AOL Style Quoting in Mail 
check.  That way, we can all tell what you're saying and what I am saying.

If you're using a Mac, try to find the analogous controls.

jatlh peHruS:

> In a message dated 97-06-20 03:42:08 EDT, SuStel replies to peHruS' short
> story:
> 
> 'ej bIngachqa' 'e' vItul

reH ngachrup tlhIngan SuvwI'.

> << > loS Hu' wa'netlh loS *feet*  juSbogh HuD vItoSta'bogh Qu' vIqIH
>  
>  "Four days ago I met (for the first time) a task of a mountain which I had 
>  climbed which overtook 10,004 feet."
>  
>  nuqjatlh?!?
> 
> reply:
> 
> Error alert!  I left out "thousand."

That wasn't the problem.

> loS Hu' wa'netlh loSSaD *feet* *exceed*bogh HuD vItoSta'
> jIHvaD poH (?) wa'DIch 'oH Qu'vam'e'   OR
> not Qu'vam vIchavpu'

You're trying to cram too many ideas into one sentence.  In Klingon, you 
should be prepared to break your sentences into bite-sized pieces.  If you 
find that you're lacking certain words (like "exceed"), then you're probably 
running into this problem.

HuD bIng Dung je jojDaq wa'netlh loSSaD "feet" tu'lu'.
HuDvam vItoSchu'ta'.
not Qu'vam vIchavta'.

I like {chavta'} here better, because you usually set out to climb a mountain; 
it doesn't just happen in passing.

[...]
> Since I am not traveling "at" the qep'a' loSDIch, but rather traveling "to"
> it, I stand by my post elsewhere that I have a strong feeling that Verbs of
> motion include the prepositional concepts we have in English such as "to,
> toward."  Your example above may imply that warriors travel "on" the river 
of
> blood.

They may indeed.  However, use of {-Daq} always requires the listener to be 
able to understand the context.  {pa'lIjDaq yIjaH}, a canon sentence, doesn't 
mean "Go while you're in your room," it means "Go to your room!"  But if I 
said {pa'lIjDaq yIQong}, it doesn't mean "Sleep towards your room," it means 
"Sleep IN your room."

By the way, not that Okrand did NOT use {pa'lIj yIjaH}.

-- 
SuStel
Beginners' Grammarian
Stardate 97481.0


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