tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Jul 28 12:21:42 1997

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Re: KLBC: Introduction to the Black Fleet



SuStel wrote:
> [email protected] on behalf of [email protected] wrote:
>> lutDaj 'oH lutvam'e'.
>> tam logh.
>> bir logh net Sov.
>> chuSmo' SuvwI' yIn 'e' wIlIjlaw'
>It took me a minute to parse this, but it's very good!

I thought it an error. If you translate it literally you can come up 
with: "Because a warrior's life is noisy we forget it." I think it is 
the noiselessness of space Hat considers we forget. But this is a 
sentence-as-object construction so the "it" cannot refer to the lines 
above, has to refer to "because a warrior's life is noisy." I don't 
like the idea of having a sentence fragment as the object of a 
sentence as object. So yIn has to be interpreted as a verb, here. I 
get something like: "We seem to forget that they/she/he/it live(s) 
because a warrior/warriors is/are noisy." SuStel, jImISchugh yIQIj.

Perhaps: 
chuSmo' SuvwI' yIn ngoDvam wIlIjlaw'.
wIlIjlaw' chuSmo' SuvwI' yIn.

>> 'ach qawbej vay.
> vay'. With a glottal stop.

YES.  I heard vay for vay' rather a lot at qep'a'. Stop it.  vay' is 
a vague enough word without having to pause to figure out that it is 
the word being used at all.

>> lIjlaHbe'chu' yo' qIj vajpu'.

> {lIjlaHbe'chu'} "perfectly cannot forget." This is pretty weird. 
> Even reading the English, I'm not sure what you're after. I think 
> you mean this:

I have no trouble with it.  I would translate it: The warriors of the 
Black Fleet are utterly unable to forget.  I might recommend 
lulIjlaHbe'chu' - are utterly unable to forget *it*, but it depends 
what HoDHat means.

>> loghDaq QIch tu'lu'be'.
> That's an interesting way to put it.

"There is no speech in space?"  qatlh Daj?

 - HotHat ghovlaw'bogh Qov'e' ;)

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