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Re: Space Cadets



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>Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 00:22:31 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Alan Anderson <[email protected]>
>
><http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/spacecadets>
>
>ja' Qov:
>>It's really an excellent translation of the English text, as good as
>>I could do.  If it *wasn't* done by MO, I want to meet the one who
>>did it.
>
>nuqjatlh?  jIQochqu'!
>ta'vamvaD SoH QaQ law' mughwI'qoq QaQ puS!
>
>"excellent"?!  {meHmeyDaq tIjaH}?!
>Using a {-vo'}-marked noun after another noun to modify it?!
>Placing a {-meH} clause at the end of a sentence?!
>
>What you see as a "simple answer" to a long-standing issue, I see
>merely as a poor attempt to translate something without knowing how
>the grammar is supposed to work.  If Okrand *did* do this, I would
>be very surprised.  I am already very disappointed by its quality.

I think I'm a little closer to ghunchu'wI'.  I really hope Okrand didn't
answer this.  -Daq on a -bogh'ed verb, ugh.  'Sides, Okrand SAID you can't
do ship-in-which-I-fled in a simple relative clause.  He's been known to
paint himself into a corner on occasion, but he does try.  Krankor's
citation of "ghe''orDaq luSpet" for type-5-modified nouns modifying other
nouns is hard to argue with, but it has it *before* the modificand.  But
the Klingon is much too good to be someone "off the street" so to speak.
Whoever it was definitely worked at this, and has studied the dictionary.
Whoever it is, we should get in contact with... with ghaH, if we haven't
already!

The other thing I'm wondering... did Paramount sanction this?  If so, why?
What good would it do them (and for that matter, what good would it do the
Space Cadet people to use tlhIngan Hol)?  If not, shouldn't they be sending
nasty letters?  This is much "worse" than anything the KLI or Chet has
done.

~mark


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