tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Jan 29 08:37:27 1997
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Re: An offer you shouldn't refuse
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>Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 03:23:33 -0800
>From: "HurghwI'" <[email protected]>
>
>At 09:37 AM 1/27/97 -0800, you wrote:
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>>>tlhIngan wo'Daq patlh Degh chu' 'oH <<meppatlh(tm)>>'e'.
>>>SuqlaH neH tera'nganpu'! wo'Daq Dotlh'a' Dachavbej DaneHchugh vaj
>>
>>Woops. This is that "only" problem we're running around trying to work out
>>again, isn't it? I think that no matter what we wind up saying, "SuqlaH
>>neH tera'nganpu'" is not right. It means "Terrans merely can get it." If
>>anything, it's "SuqlaH tera'nganpu' neH". 'Iwvan, my head's so turned with
>>this, what do you think?
>
>To me, your example says "Terrans can only get it; they can't get anything
>else." What if we said <SuqlaH tera'ngan ghaHbogh vay'>, or <SuqlaHbe'
>tera'ngan ghaHbe'bogh vay'>?
No, I'm starting to make more sense of this now. Consider the canon:
"jonta' neH" for "only the engine." I.e. the engine and nothing else. So
"luSuqlaH tera'nganpu' neH" means "Terrans, and only terrans, can get it."
For "they can get it and nothing else," you'd have to say "'oH neH luSuqlaH
tera'ngapu'." The restriction is applied to the noun modified.
>>>*** tlhIngan wo'Daq <<meppatlh(tm)>>'e' neH Dalo'laH!
>>
>>This sounds like "You can use only meppatlh in the Klingon Empire."
>>Shouldn't the neH follow "wo'Daq" to mean "only in the Empire"?
>
>Whoa! <neH> being an adverb, does that mean it can modify prepositions,
>too? I like the negation here, too <tlhIngan wo' HurDaq <<meppatlh(tm)>>'e'
>Dalo'laHbe'>.
<neH> can modify nouns, right? It's unusual that way. Isn't "wo'Daq" a
noun? It's a noun with a suffix, but still a noun.
~mark
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