tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Jan 06 16:55:32 1997
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RE: KLBC: Initiation Rites
- From: "David Trimboli" <[email protected]>
- Subject: RE: KLBC: Initiation Rites
- Date: Tue, 7 Jan 97 00:50:17 UT
January 06, 1997 3:57 PM EST, jatlh ~mark:
> >Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 23:57:06 -0800
> >From: [email protected]
> >
> >In a message dated 97-01-03 03:03:04 EST, you write:
>
> You write? I thought YOU wrote it. You really should be more specific in
> your referencing of quotes.
AOL doesn't do it automatically; he has to do it manually. I got quite used
to this when I was using AOL for the list, and I still replace people's real
names with their Klingon names manually, as well as add the {jatlh}.
> > tIQoy': SuvwI' patlh chavta' pong
>
> nuq wIQoy'? ("DIQoy'" vIja'nIS'a'?) loQ jImIS.
nuq 'oS <Qoy'>'e'? mu'vam vISovbe'. chaq <Qoy> Sujatlh 'e' boHech.
> > batlh tlhIngan wo' veSqa' tuq je toy'jaj pong 'ej *Sto-vo-kor* wIpawpu'DI'
It took me two rereadings of this entire message before I figured out that
{pong} must be either a Klingon's name, or the spot to fill-in-the-blanks for
a name. Perhaps you could mark this with something?
> > batlh 'ejyo' qIj toy'taH ghaH
> > Qapla'! pong, tIqlIj Da'angrup'a'
>
> jImIStaH... nuv 'oH'a' pong'e'? Ooooh... "pong"vaD SuvwI' pong Datam 'e'
> DaHechlaw'.
mIS cha' laDwI'!
> > nad mIw'a'
>
> tlha''a' naD mIw? bIjatlhchugh...
>
> > 1. tlhIngan Hol Dajatlh'a'
> > 2. qatlh veSqa' tuq DajeS DaneH
>
> chaq "Damuv" Dalo'?
<veSqa' tuq Damuv qatlh DaneH?>
> > 3. chay' tlhIngan Da vay'
> > 4. nuq bIH tlhIngan yIn ghob tIgh je'e' 'e' DaQub
>
> ghobe'. *DIp* mojaq 'oH "-'e'"'e'. DIp 'oHbe' "je"'e'.
>
> "nuq bIH tlhIngan yIn'e' ghob'e' tIgh'e' je..."
>
> Hmm. "relative pronoun" 'oSmeH, yu'meH mu' ("nuq") Dalo'law'. wej DIch
> wIghaj, qechvam wIqelDI'. chaq...
>
> vuDlIj yInob: nuq bIH....?
qatlh vuD neH tlhIngan? yIjang!!! yu'taHvIS tlhIngan, vuD SaHbe'bej!
<nuq bIH tlhIngan yIn'e' ghob'e' tIgh'e' je?>
> > 5. veSqa' tuqvaD nuq DachavlaH
> > 6. qunmaj qelbogh nuq DaSov
> > 7. chay' DajeS 'e' DaHech
> > 8. latlh DIvI'mey DajeStaH'a'
> > 9. latlh qechmey Daja' DaneH'a'
>
> wej "latlh" wIlo'meH mIw wISovchu'.
<DIvI' 'ar Damuvpu'a'? tIngu'.>
I'm not at all convinced that {jeS} is transitive, but I feel unsure about
putting {-vaD} in as {DIvI' 'arvaD}.
What's up with number nine? Is it a spot for "other"? Perhaps you could just
write {latlh:}.
--
SuStel
Beginners' Grammarian
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