tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Sep 16 09:05:30 1996
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Re: nIDwIj wa'DIch
- From: [email protected] (Alan Anderson)
- Subject: Re: nIDwIj wa'DIch
- Date: Mon, 16 Sep 96 10:29:50 EST
qob (Bill Willmerdinger) writes:
>Are there any other Klingon words that tale [sic] double objects?
Lots of them! The causation verb suffix {-moH} has given us fits for
ages because of this feature.
Start with "I drink the ale." {HIq vItlhutlh}. No problem.
Now add {-moH}: "I cause him to drink the ale." Suddenly we have two
objects, "him" and "ale", for the verb {tlhutlhmoH}. How do we do it?
We now have two answers, and they seem to agree with each other.
The {pong} example says the recipient/beneficiary of the naming gets
the suffix {-vaD}, which is pretty reasonable, and the name being
given is the unmarked "real" object. The other example, from a recent
Skybox card, says {tuQtaHvIS Hem. ghaHvaD quHDaj qawmoH.} and is
translated as "He wears it proudly as a reminder of his heritage." It
works the same way; the recipient/beneficiary of the "remembering" is
marked with {-vaD} and the thing being remembered is "the" object.
So double-object verbs apparently can have two different things fill
the role of "direct" object, depending on whether or not the other
object is present. "I cause him to drink" is {ghaH vItlhutlhmoH}, but
"I cause him to drink the ale" is likely {ghaHvaD HIq vItlhutlhmoH}.
-- ghunchu'wI', vIDIllu'meH jIghun 'ej jIbelmeH tlhIngan Hol vIHaD
-- Alan Anderson, professional programmer and amateur Klingonist