tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Nov 28 12:01:56 1996
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> > 'olIva' jiH. *esperantisto* jIH. tlhIngan Hol vIghoj. *maths*
> > *Cambridge*Daq viHaD. rol vIghaj.
> majQa'! Very good! Just watch out for capitalizing your {I}s.
Damn! I usually remember to do that (I think), but that must have been a
bad day for me.
> Also, you
> usually need to put the noun with the Type 5 suffix *before* the object noun:
> *Cambridge*Daq *mathematics* vIHaD.
HIja', bIlugh. Silly me.
> A few people sometimes use the compound word {mI'QeD} to describe
mathematics
Hmm... I don't think that's in canon! Are you allowed to make up just any
compound words? In TKD, Marc Okrand seemed to be saying that you could at
one point, but then when he gave the example, it was two separate words.
As I recall. But I don't have TKD with me at the moment, as I don't want
the other people in this computer room to know I'm learning Klingon!
> Ack! That is certainly too many (all at once, anyway). As for "question,"
> there is no noun for it. Why not try rewording what you want to say using the
> verb {tlhob}?
I thought of using a verb, but then what would I attach the number to?
How about:
'uy'logh SuStel vIthlob vIneH
I want to ask SuStel a million times.
Except that that could mean asking the same question a million times, or
asking on a million separate occasions, but with more than one question at
a time. So how does one convey the idea that there are a million
questions? (Or even 3,654,120?)
Also, do you ask [something] to [someone]
(direct object : something, indirect object : someone)?
vay'Daq vay' vItlhob
Or do you ask [someone] about [something]
(direct object : someone, indirect object : something)?
vay'mo' vay' vItlhob
Urgh. They both look wrong. It's very confusing that the words for
"something" and "someone" appear to be the same. Also, if the group 5 noun
suffixes correspond to English prepositions, why are there so few of them?
I can't make them mean what I want them to mean!
> No need to add Esperanto to your messages;
Hmm. The Esperanto was a feeble attempt to make the mailing list more
international, but it doesn't work if no-one else writes in Esperanto, so
I think I'll give up. Is <tulwI' Hol> a good name for "Esperanto"?
"Esperanto" = "one who hopes", the pseudonym of the person who originally
made Esperanto up.
> I certainly can't read it, and
I thought that other people might want to read my messages apart from
just you.
> discussion should either be in Klingon or in English.
Lingva fa^sismo!!! :-( Don't you think that it's rather unfair to
restrict this mailing list just to people who can speak English? What
about the other c. 5,000,000,000 people in the world who can't? At the
moment, anyone who wants to learn Klingon has to learn English first!
> > P.S.- Who's the right person to
> > moan at about the MUSH?
> *shrug*. Depends what you mean. Moaning because no one's on it? I agree:
> this situation is intolerable! I just don't know how to get more people to
> visit!
I do! When I first went there, I spent ages wandering through hundreds of
different locations before I managed to find anyone, which was rather a
waste of time. Possibly other people with less patience give up before
they meet anyone. The second time I went, I spent ages looking for people
(and no, it wasn't that no-one was there) and I failed, and got stuck in
some infinite set of generic hotel rooms, from which I couldn't escape. So
the third time I visited the MUSH, I had to start again as a different
character ('olIvargh). I wandered around for ages (again), trying to find
people, and failed again. If the purpose of the MUSH is to enable people
to practise the language, what's the point of making it like a maze? The
Virtuala Esperanto-Kongresejo is much more intelligently thought out.
> Stardate 96908.7
OK, so I've worked out that the first two digits represent the year. Is
the rest just the number of thousandths of the year that have passed? If
so, isn't it horrendously complicated to calculate?
'olIva' ('olIvargh)
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