tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Nov 20 04:54:14 1996
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Re: KLBC Syntax - I'm Lost
- From: "Donald E. Vick" <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: KLBC Syntax - I'm Lost
- Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 04:40:22 -0800 (PST)
- In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> from "Ken N" at Nov 19, 96 08:16:04 pm
SuStel, mISvam chenmoH QaghwIj, vaj jIjang. *KLBC vIqImHa' 'e' yIHarQo'.
> Donald E. Vick said:
> >> You also said:
> >> That which does not kill us, makes us stronger
> >> muHoHbe'wI' muHoSmoHbej
> >> Which makes sense and in an order I understand.
> > Actually, I believe that this was mine, and it's wrong. The word order
> >should be reversed. You probably picked this up when SuStel quoted it to
> >correct me.
>
> Why is this wrong. It looks fine and makes sense????????????
> Okay, Purpose clauses come first, relative clause act as a noun and as such
> comes where the noun should object or subject, subordinate are variable
> (speaker preference). I'm not a student of languages but the above appears
> to me as a complex (compound) sentence. So why is it backwards. I'm sure I'm
> missing something, if not are we putting things backwards just on accound of?
There's no relative clause, and no purpose clause. Perhaps you confuse
-meH with -moH. Here is the sentence.
muHoSmoHbej = mu- HoS -moH -bej = It certainly causes me to be strong
muHoHbe'wI' = mu- HoH -be' -wI' = That which does not kill me
There is no object in this sentence. Therefore, it is verb - subject.
Remember that the verb suffix -wI' turns the verb into a noun, somewhat like
the English verb suffix -er (i.e. "kill" - verb, "killER" - noun). Remember,
OBJECT - VERB - SUFFIX. I hope this has helped.
taDI'oS vIq, law'wI'pu'vaD Holtej jIH
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