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Re: Cannon for Multiple Consonants



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>Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 12:09:54 -0700
>From: [email protected]
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>Many people have given me a hard time on the spelling of my name.  They said 
>that you can not have a consonant cluster.  I poured over TKD trying to find 
>where they had gotten that info.  It's not there!  Not once does MO state that a
>consonant cluster is illegal!  

>Then today I found proof!

>Hurgh = either 'be dark' (v) or 'pickle (cucumber)' (n)


>Last time I checked 'rgh' was two consonants. {{;-)

Yes... so it -y' and -w'... we've occasionally seen reviews of the
phonology (so often maybe it should be in the FAQ list,.  I remember when
someone came on recently he gave us his review of it which said the same
things we'd known, because he didn't realize we'd worked it out).

Consonant clusters DO occur in Klingon.  Obviously, they occur between
syllables (ghoSlaH has an Sl cluster), and that's pretty free: since there
are words which begin with all the consonants and (I think) ones which end
with all the consonants, you could probably contrive compounds with every
possible intermorpheme cluster.  But that's not what's interesting.

Klingon apparently has very few syllable-final clusters, groups of
consonants which end off the syllable.  The only examples extant are in
- -y', -w', and -rgh.  So those seem to be the only syllable-final consonant
clusters in Klingon... at least the only ones we've seen.

What everyone was saying was that there is no evidence for syllable
*initial* consonant clusters.  And that remains true.  There are no known
Klingon words that begin with more than one consonant in a row.  Hurgh is
not a counterexample to this, plainly.

Your name is another story altogether.  The way you describe pronouncing
it, it sounds like you're pronouncing the r as a seprate syllable (indeed,
that's the only way I can imagine it being pronounced), and a syllabic r is
not a sound we have evidence for in Klingon anywhere.  Which, of course,
remains beside the point.  It's your NAME, and if Fafhrd can call himself
Fafhrd in an English book, you can call yourself r'Hul in Klingon
contexts.

~mark



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