tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Jan 03 09:31:47 1996
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Re: newbie comments
- From: [email protected] (Joe Steger)
- Subject: Re: newbie comments
- Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:31:45 -0700 (MST)
- In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> from "Matt Gomes" at Jan 3, 96 06:29:07 am
>From the keyboard of Matt Gomes
> ghItlh Guido#1:
> [snip]
> : translation: a magnificence learning device. With one big concession:
> : Translation should follow repetitive drilling and fortification of knowledge
> : of grammar and vocab. It is not a beginner's friend. Of course, there are
> : those who have gone thru the whole ordeal with other previously learned
> : langs, and already understand the whole philosophy of translation quite well
>
> toH! Isn't translation of what's in your mind and what you have to say the
> same a translating a piece of prose?
Agreed. Unless of course, you just think in tlhIngan Hol and then write
it down. :-)
> The trouble I find with translating a piece of prose into tlhIngan Hol is
> the fact that there are missing words. Especially nouns that I can't easily
> recast.
So, lets tie Okrand down and beat some new words out of him and Maltz. :-)
> Being an instructional designer, I'd disagree with you that repetitive
> drilling is any kind of instruction. What does that teach you? And
> how effective is it? There are a number of studies out there that show
> a highly effective way to learn is through EXPERIENCE. Sit someone in
> a Klingon bar and they'll start to LEARN. Or, on Earth, sit with some
> of the fluent people and just have a conversation (or listen in). This
> is ACTIVE learning (as opposed to your repetitive drilling which is more
> passive).
Abso-fraggin-lutely! I've learned _so_ much in the 2.5 years I've been
lurking on this list. Not enough to even consider myself 1% fluent,
but still enough that I can occasionally actually understand what someone
is saying.
qu'
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