tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Tue Nov 07 14:57:41 1995

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Re: jIlIH(')egh, etc.

[I prefer {pongwIj 'oH ghunchu'wI''e'} over {ghunchu'wI' 'oH pongwIj'e'}]

~mark writes:
>No matter the order, you still run afoul of your interpretation of pronouns
>as set-membership indicators.  Either way you're making an equivalence
>between the thing that is "my name" and the thing "jejQIb."  That was why I
>was asking.  It's just as much a counterexample as "HoDDaj jIH."

Not so!  I have many names, and {ghunchu'wI'} is but one of them.
When one says {ghunchu'wI'} one says my name, but one also says my
name when one says "Alan Anderson", or "eli ben avraham", or even
CLIPC1B(C2BARA).  {ghunchu'wI'} is certainly my name, but my name
is not simply {ghunchu'wI'}.

{ghunchu'wI' jIH} is worse.  My true nature cannot be captured in
a name.  *I* am not {ghunchu'wI'}; {ghunchu'wI'} is merely my name.
Of course, the fact that I indeed am one who programs perfectly does
tend to muddle things a bit, but if that's what I wanted to say I'd
use {jIghunchu'}. :-)

 -- ghunchu'wI'               batlh Suvchugh vaj batlh SovchoH vaj

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