tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon May 15 06:45:36 1995
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Re: {n/ng-a-'/gh/H}
Welcome back!
According to R.B Franklin:
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> A couple of other items I would like to add to the list are:
>
> When a verb is used adjectivally, it can take the suffix {-qu'}. Is
> is legal to add {-be'} or {-Ha'} to verbs when they are used
> adjectivally?
> E.g. {*qama' ralbe'} (a non-violent prisoner) or {*jagh quvHa'} (a
> dishonored enemy)
We know that {-be'} is allowed because of the canon usage in CK:
wa'maH yIHmey lI'be'
We don't know about others.
> What verb suffixes, if any, besides {-Ha'} and the Type 7 aspect suffixes,
> are permitted with {-ghach}?
The interview in HolQeD with Okrand on this topic covers most
of this. I don't have those with me just now, so I can't cite
the issue (though I feel certain someone here will).
> Can words like {*lobqangtaHghach} ("obedience") or {*tlhuHqa'moHta'ghach}
> ("resuscitation") be created?
If you have to. For me, they do carry the meaning, but sound a
little pretentious (high-falutin) for a Klingon.
> We can put {'e'} on the head noun of a relative clause, but can we put
> other Type 5 syntactic markers on the head noun? I.e. is it legal to say
> something like:
> *vengDaq HIvpu'bogh jagh (in the city which the enemy has attacked)
This is a good question that Okrand would help us to address. I
personally hope that this does NOT prove to be acceptable,
since the expansion into potential meaning it offers is more
than offset by the likely confusion it would create.
Essentially, we are asking to make a Type 5 suffix to carry two
meanings. If it can do this some of the time, it will become
confusing as to which times it is supposed to do this and which
times it is not. Expanding your example:
vengDaq HIvpu'bogh jagh vIlu'.
Which does this mean? :
"In the city, I found the enemy who had attacked."
"I found the city in which the enemy had attacked."
> What, exactly does {taH} (to be at a negative angle) mean?
Forever an excellent question. I think he put that in just to
make us argue over it.
> Is /Q/ a fricative or an affricate sound?
I'd like him to just show up, show us, listen to us and tell us
when we have it right. I've recently changed the sound of my
{Q} to better match the sound he makes on the tape while
demonstrating the sound, though it is not the same sound he
makes when he is pronouncing words using it. When I do this,
{Q} becomes much more easily distinguished from {H}.
> Perhaps Dr. Schoen could forward these questions to Marc Okrand when he has
> the opportunity.
Unfortunately, Okrand seems to answer about one question per
year.
> > charghwI'
>
> yoDtargh
charghwI'
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