tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Dec 18 01:18:28 1995
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Re: {-meH} and {Sov} (was Re: KLBC: starting right back...)
- From: Marc Ruehlaender <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: {-meH} and {Sov} (was Re: KLBC: starting right back...)
- Date: Mon, 18 Dec 95 10:18:27 MET
- In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>; from "[email protected]" at Dec 15, 95 5:16 pm
- Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85]
> >On the other hand, the first one may be (according
> >to 6.2.4.) "She knows (the procedure to fix the engine)."
> >(the second correspondingly). I've never been very
> >comfortable with this usage of {-meH}. In order to
> >construct the meanings yoDtargh has given above, and
> >which I questioned, would one use sth. like
> >{mIw jonta' tI'meH Sov}?
>
> Can anyone cite an canon (I'm beginning to hate that word) example of using
> {-meH} with {Sov}? I think the usage is perfectly valid, and the problem
> HomDoq is having is due to thinking too much in English (or whatever his
> native language may be). HomDoq, I read your sentence as "In order to repair
> the procedure's engine, he knows." This makes no sense to me. Perhaps to a
> native Klingon speaker, {jonta' tI'meH mIw Sov} is perfectly valid.
>
I may have failed to communicate clearly...
when I said "I am not comfortable with" I wanted to
say "I have not yet understood how it is used" not
"I don't think one should use it this way"... sorry
so if jonta' tI'meH mIw means "procedure-to-fix-the engine",
it's O.K. for me. I'm just confused when Okrand talks about
"purpose clauses". As for the meaning of the sentence, I just
(after re-reading 6.2.4.) discovered, that objects of the
main verb precede the "purpose clause", even if it refers to
that verb rather than it's object... (see how confused I am?)
thus the explanation I just posted is of course :) wrong...
This however means one cannot distinguish exactly what the
"purpose clause" refers to. Especially I would like to know,
how one can refer to the subject of a sentence, e.g. is
*Qatlh jonta' tI'meH mIw
a grammatical expression for "the procedure to repair engines
is difficult"?
HomDoq
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